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Dear Jan,

Thank you so much for creating and maintening the CCL for so long. It has been 
part of my full scientific life as a computational chemist. I must admit that I 
naively never imagined that it could come to en end.

Best regards,

Paul.

Le 12/07/2025 à 20:35, Olalla Nieto Faza faza[#]uvigo.gal a écrit :
>
> Dear Jan,
>
> Although I’ve been a silent reader over the last years, I’ve been using the 
> CCL since I started grad school in 2001, and I can’t thank you (and the list 
> members) enough for providing this invaluable service. CCL has been an 
> essential resource throughout my scientific career—especially in the early 
> days. As a computational chemist in an experimental group with limited 
> in-house expertise, I often felt stranded in those first years. Without CCL, 
> I’m not sure I would have made it through. And I’m not just talking about the 
> technical and philosophical discussions—it was also the sense of community 
> that made a huge difference.
>
> I will truly miss it, and I hope we can recreate that spirit somewhere else.
>
> With deepest gratitude and best regards,
>
>
> Olalla
>
>
>
> On 7/9/25 3:42 AM, Jan Labanowski jasienku|a|gmail.com wrote:
>> Dear CCL Subscribers,
>>
>> CCL Closure
>>
>> With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will be closing the 
>> CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to chemistry-#-ccl.net will no longer 
>> distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will happen within a week or two. 
>> This service is just no longer used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, 
>> operating this kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level 
>> of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On top of this, I am 
>> getting senile, and keeping up with these developments becomes a burden. So, 
>> at some point (a week or two) the address chemistry-#-ccl.net and 
>> corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the list, will no longer 
>> distribute email to subscribers.
>>
>> I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer, so if you need 
>> to grab something from there, you still have a month or two. Also, since 
>> there are some unexpired position openings announcements ( 
>> https://server.ccl.net/jobs 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://server.ccl.net/jobs__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UjxAu9tv6EOJIt90zkECQGZrhu_r7GcUOpyfC7mZnkjMZvd5jXGmqyy5uRQb4WWbZeC6ghLiE5Urps_kx9wX1WU$> 
>> ), I need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do some 
>> traveling later this summer and fall, and I will probably close the CCL Web 
>> site at this time. Leaving the server without monitoring is becoming a very 
>> risky proposition lately.
>>
>> I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me. Some of you 
>> were members of CCL Community for a long time. It makes me believe, that at 
>> some point, it was a useful service, and it helped Computational Chemistry to 
>> gain more popularity.
>>
>> Thank you for participating... It was a honor!
>>
>> Jan Labanowski
>> jasienku-#-gmail.com , ccl-#-ccl.net
>>
> -- 
> Dr. Olalla Nieto Faza
> faza a uvigo.es  +34 986 812 632
> https://orcid.org/0000-0001-8754-1341
> Dpto. de Quimica Organica
> Facultade de Química
> Universidade de Vigo
> Lagoas/Marcosende 36310, Vigo (Spain)

-- 
Fleurat-Lessard Paul,      Professor            Universite Bourgogne Europe
tel: 03 80 39 37 20e-mail:Paul.Fleurat-Lessard{=}ube.fr
  ICMUB,         9 avenue Alain Savary - BP 47870 21078 DIJON Cedex - FRANCE

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    <p>Dear Jan,</p>
    <p>Thank you so much for creating and maintening the CCL for so
      long. It has been part of my full scientific life as a
      computational chemist. I must admit that I naively never imagined
      that it could come to en end.</p>
    <p>Best regards,</p>
    <p>Paul.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 12/07/2025 à 20:35, Olalla Nieto
      Faza faza[#]uvigo.gal a écrit :<br>
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      <p>Dear Jan,<br>
        <br>
        Although I’ve been a silent reader over the last years, I’ve
        been using the CCL since I started grad school in 2001, and I
        can’t thank you (and the list members) enough for providing this
        invaluable service. CCL has been an essential resource
        throughout my scientific career—especially in the early days. As
        a computational chemist in an experimental group with limited
        in-house expertise, I often felt stranded in those first years.
        Without CCL, I’m not sure I would have made it through. And I’m
        not just talking about the technical and philosophical
        discussions—it was also the sense of community that made a huge
        difference.<br>
        <br>
        I will truly miss it, and I hope we can recreate that spirit
        somewhere else.<br>
        <br>
        With deepest gratitude and best regards,</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p>Olalla</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/9/25 3:42 AM, Jan Labanowski
        jasienku|a|gmail.com wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:-id%233ak-55324-250708214311-12641-bvNxekP5mXUoFpr+u4%2F7vQ a server.ccl.net">
        <div dir="ltr">Dear CCL Subscribers,<br>
          <br>
          CCL Closure<br>
          <br>
          With some melancholic feelings I need to announce that I will
          be closing the CCL Mailing list, i.e., the mail sent to <a
            href="mailto:chemistry-#-ccl.net" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chemistry-#-ccl.net</a> will
          no longer distribute messages to CCL Subscribers. It will
          happen within a week or two. This service is just no longer
          used, that is, it is no longer needed. Yet, operating this
          kind of service is a lot of work due to the overwhelming level
          of spam attempts and also exploits to attack the server. On
          top of this, I am getting senile, and keeping up with these
          developments becomes a burden. So, at some point (a week or
          two) the address <a href="mailto:chemistry-#-ccl.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chemistry-#-ccl.net</a>
          and corresponding Web pages to submit messages to the list,
          will no longer distribute email to subscribers.<br>
          <br>
          I will try to keep the CCL Web site running for a bit longer,
          so if you need to grab something from there, you still have a
          month or two. Also, since there are some unexpired position
          openings announcements ( <a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://server.ccl.net/jobs__;!!D9dNQwwGXtA!UjxAu9tv6EOJIt90zkECQGZrhu_r7GcUOpyfC7mZnkjMZvd5jXGmqyy5uRQb4WWbZeC6ghLiE5Urps_kx9wX1WU$"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://server.ccl.net/jobs</a> ), I
          need to run this site, as it was my commitment. I plan to do
          some traveling later this summer and fall, and I will probably
          close the CCL Web site at this time. Leaving the server
          without monitoring is becoming a very risky proposition
          lately.<br>
          <br>
          I would like to thank all CCL participants, for being with me.
          Some of you were members of CCL Community for a long time. It
          makes me believe, that at some point, it was a useful service,
          and it helped Computational Chemistry to gain more popularity.
          <br>
          <br>
          Thank you for participating... It was a honor!<br>
          <br>
          Jan Labanowski<br>
          <a href="mailto:jasienku-#-gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jasienku-#-gmail.com</a> , <a
            href="mailto:ccl-#-ccl.net" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ccl-#-ccl.net</a><br>
          <br>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Dr. Olalla Nieto Faza
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated moz-txt-link-freetext"
      href="mailto:faza a uvigo.es" moz-do-not-send="true">faza a uvigo.es</a>  +34 986 812 632
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
      href="https://orcid.org/0000-0001-8754-1341"
      moz-do-not-send="true">https://orcid.org/0000-0001-8754-1341</a>
Dpto. de Quimica Organica
Facultade de Química
Universidade de Vigo
Lagoas/Marcosende 36310, Vigo (Spain)</pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="80">-- 
Fleurat-Lessard Paul,      Professor            Universite Bourgogne Europe
tel: 03 80 39 37 20                      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:e-mail:Paul.Fleurat-Lessard{=}ube.fr">e-mail:Paul.Fleurat-Lessard{=}ube.fr</a>
 ICMUB,         9 avenue Alain Savary - BP 47870 21078 DIJON Cedex - FRANCE</pre>
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