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Subject: Re: Excimer Calculations
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CI works well for excimers and is equivalent to combination of charge transfer
and excitation resonance. See, for example:

"Photophysics of Polystyrene. 2. Pariser-Parr-Pople Studies of Excimer
Structure"
S. Blonski, K. Sienicki, and A. Herman
Macromolecules 20 (1987) 329

and more recent references:

"Excimer geometries in bichromophoric molecules: a theoretical and experimental
study of 1,2-(bis-9-anthryl)-ethane"
G.D. Scholes, K.P. Ghiggino, and G.J. Wilson
Chemical Physics 155 (1991) 127

"Excimer interactions in poly(acenaphthalene) diads"
D.G. Scholes and K.P. Ghiggino
Chemical Physics Letters 188 (1992) 140

However, semi-empirical methods give good spectra or good geometries, but not
both, and excited-state ab initio calculations seem to be too costly so far.

I don't work on excimers now, but I am still very interested in the summary
of responds to the excimer question.

Slawomir Blonski


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Calculation of excimer emission wavelengths is a particularly
non-trivial exercise.
Ab initio calculations must employ extended basis sets and proper
inclusion of correlation - the emission maximum shift with
respect to that of the "monomer" should be fairly reliably calculated
in this way, but not necessarily the actual maximum.

For more practically-oriented calculations a modified version of
QCFF/PI (used in e.g. G.D. Scholes, K.P. Ghiggino & G.J. Wilson,
Chem. Phys., 155 (1991) 127) could be used.  You may obtain that
>from me (just e-mail me personally).

Alternatively, what about CNDO/S/CI or INDO/S/CI - they should
also give reasonable results?

Regards
  Greg Scholes
  University of Melbourne

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Dear Netters,

  on his reply to the question concering calculation of excimer electronic
structure, Greg Scholes suggested to try CNDO and/or INDO/S-CI.

Although these procedures may look like an attractive choice, the one of them
which I know personally (INDO/S-CI such as implemented for example in Zerner's
ZINDO which is also offered in INSIGHT from Biosym) has one serious drawback
which probably makes it useless for excimers: It absurdly overestimates
through-space interactions at anything smaller than van der Waals distances.

We have been trying to do calculations on pi-complex cations (which may be
regarded as ionized excimers) and the splitting of the HOMO's and the LUMO's at
distances between 2.8 and 3.0 Angstrom (as may be typical also for pi-excimers)
were so large that the HOMO-LUMO-gap (or, conversely, the electronic transition
corresponding to HOMO-LUMO excitation) was predicted in the IR! At larger
distances, the picture becomes more realistic (for example, the splitting of
the pi-states in dodecahedradiene, where two double bonds are held at a 3.5
Angstom distance is predicted to be 0.8 eV in excellent agreement with
experiment).

Of course all this boils down to the choice of the geometry, in particular the
distance between the excimer components. We based our calculations on
geometries obtained at a correlated ab-initio level which we assume to be
reasonably realistic. Surely one could do an INDO/S calculation at some
distance where experimental excimer emission wavelengths are predicted
correctly but then the question poses itself whether we have gained any
understanding by doing this  calculation.

I think the only procedure which is liable to give correct results without any
fiddling is the CASPT2-model recently proposed by Roos et. al. and implemented
in their program system MOLCAS 2. However, anything with more than about ten
heavy atoms may take a lot of patience even with state-of-the art hardware and
the program is not of the black-box type because some human intelligence is
needed in the selection of the basis set and the active space for the MCSCF
calculation.

Therefore, I share the opinion of Greg Scholes that calculations of excimer
emissions are a non-trivial issue, but I am also waiting eagerly to hear what
other colleagues have to say on this matter

thomas bally

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Dear CCL fellows, 
	I am writing an MD program and here comes some questions.
	To my experience, the average temperature tends to raise
up gradually in a simulation resulting in the increasing of total
energy. 

        1) Is it possible to apply a "scaling temperature" algorithm
to control the temperature range ( my MD is NVE ) ? To my idea,
scaling the velocities cause the deviation of the p-q coordinate 
( generalized momentum-generalized coordinates ) in the phase space.
The trajectories are therefore deviated, is it true ? How to scale
both velocities and coordinates to keep the correct trajectories and
p-q coordinates in the phase space ?
	2) Is it possible to apply an "external bath" in which is 
generally used with NVT ensemble to an NVE ensemble ?
	
	Thanks a lot in advance.
						best wishes,
						T.K.Noy


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Hi Noy,

>>        1) Is it possible to apply a "scaling temperature" algorithm
>>to control the temperature range ( my MD is NVE ) ? To my idea,
>>scaling the velocities cause the deviation of the p-q coordinate
>>( generalized momentum-generalized coordinates ) in the phase space.
>>The trajectories are therefore deviated, is it true ? How to scale
>>both velocities and coordinates to keep the correct trajectories and
>>p-q coordinates in the phase space ?

The traditional way to get the NVE simulation running at (close to) the 
temperature you want is to have an equilibration period where the velocities
are all uniformly scaled so the system is forced to have the kinetic energy
appropriate to the required temperature.  Following this period (typically
a few thousand timesteps), scaling is switched off and the averaging over
configurations can be started.  The temperature should be monitored during this
averaging period (it's one of the things you calculate as an average); if it
drifts too much, then maybe the equilibration period wasn't long enough, or
maybe your timestep is too big.

>>        2) Is it possible to apply an "external bath" in which is
>>generally used with NVT ensemble to an NVE ensemble ?

There are a number of algorithms for this.  Two which I recall are that of 
Berendsen and that of Nose.  Check out Allen & Tildesley's "Computer Simulation
of Liquids" (OUP, 1987), where all this is described in some detail.

Hope this helps,

Jeremy

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Subject: Improper dihedrals in GROMOS



This is a question regarding the improper dihedral parameters for the side
chains of two amino acids, VAL and LEU, as it appears in the GROMOS
parameter files. The residue topology file lists an entry for the
following improper dihedral angles:

	VAL: CB CG1 CG2 CA
	LEU: CG CD1 CD2 CB

The force constants for both these are 80 kcal/mol-1/rad-2 and the
equilibrium angle is 35.264.  In VAL, CG1 and CG2, and in LEU, CD1 and CD2
are identical united atom CH3's. However, it is clear that the improper
dihedral angle measured depends on the order of the atoms CG1 and CG2 for
VAL and CD1 and CD2 for LEU.

We have noticed that the order of CG1 and CG2 (and CD1 and CD2) as they
appear in PDB files give improper dihedrals that are in the neighbourhood
of -30. As a result, during the course of energy minimization or early MD,
this dihedral angle gets flipped to around +30, significantly altering the
side chain geometry, energetics and subsequently the backbone
geometry. The solutions to this problem are rather simple:

	1. Switch the CG1 and CG2 in VAL and CD1 and CD2 in LEU before
generating the binary topology file.

	2. Change the GROMOS RTF files to reflect the correct improper
order.

	We are interested in knowing whether other GROMOS users have
encountered this problem, or whether this is mentioned anywhere in the
GROMOS manual. We have checked the RTF files for GROMOS86 as well as
GROMOS87 and both contain the same ordering. 

	In all trial runs we notice that the improper dihedral flips
almost immediately and that in the specific case of lysozyme, the backbone
RMS difference between the incorrect and correct ordering can be as much
as .5A within 50ps (which is considerable). In some other cases, we notice
that this does not have too much of an effect. It is all a function of how
many VAL and LEU the protein has.

	Any comments and/or clarifications are appreciated.

Bill Harte, Bristol-Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute 
G. Ravishanker, Dept. of Chemistry, Wesleyan University.

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K. T. Noy writes:

> Subj:	Molecular Dynamics questions

> Dear CCL fellows, 
> 	I am writing an MD program and here comes some questions.
>	To my experience, the average temperature tends to raise
> up gradually in a simulation resulting in the increasing of total
> energy. 

>        1) Is it possible to apply a "scaling temperature" algorithm
> to control the temperature range ( my MD is NVE )
	
>	Thanks a lot in advance.
>						best wishes,
>						T.K.Noy
--------------------------------------------------------------------
I have a comment that is a "tangental" answer. In fitting several 
variable temperature NMR simulations where you have an equilbrium
situation between several species of various populations, I noted 
that I could not obtain satisfactory fits of my spectra by simply 
increasing the rate of exchange between the various species (as 
dictated by the Eyring equation) until I began to increase the 
populations of the minor species with increasing temperature. 

Further, the best fits were obtained when I could track the 
popolations of each species at several temperatures and generate
a Van't Hoff plot that could be used to "predict" the populations
for spectra where overlap prevented population elucidation. 

If your MD model is varying in temperature, a more realistic 
model would include an increasing of minor conformation populations
with increasing temperature (as dictated by the Van't Hoff equation).

What do others think.

Jay Brown


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I finally got MOPAC 93 (the licensed version of MOPAC 7) to work
on our HP-UX (9.01) and Domain/OS (SR10.4) systems, but many changes
were required. Here is the text summary of what I did; I will send
the complete context diff patches to anyone who asks. I am somewhat
surprised that these changes have not propagated back to QCPE
by now since I sent them in 2 months ago.


		CHANGES TO MOPAC 93
		===================

Version: 1993/09/18.

The following changes were made to MOPAC 93 (version 93.00)
to allow it to run corectly on HP 7xx series systems running
HP-UX 9.01 and HP/Apollo Domain/OS DN10000 systems.

Even with these changes, the 'mopac_examples/testall.dat' data
set still fails test cases 1-3 and 6 (they are labelled as
"Ethylene" but are in fact HCNH+).

Special notes:

*_source/Makefile:
	It is essential that MOPAC be compiled with static data
	storage (so that all subroutine local variables are SAVEd
	between calls), as opposed to using the "stack" (or dynamic
	data storage). Doing this also automatically zeroes all
	undefined variables on the HP, and this is recommended for
	all systems. Many routines have SAVE statements in them,
	but MOPAC does not work properly with just those statements.
	Some Makefile's have features in them which do not work
	with the version of make distributed with many systems;
	the fancy stuff has been replaced with regular commands.
	Recursive Makefiles changed to allow environment
	variables to be recovered (change ' to " in the 'make'
	command).

bz_source/orient.f:
	It is illegal to read CHARACTER data with '*' format
	unless the character strings are surrounded by ' characters
	in the input file. The program was changed to scan for
	the TITLE after reading the INTEGER/REAL values with '*'.

bz_source/tkhard.f, density_source/tkhard.f:
	This routine creates a Tektronix 4010 graphics file,
	which can either be displayed on a PC running MS-KERMIT,
	or printed directly on a Imagen laser printer, or converted
	to PostScript with 'tek2ps'.

mopac_source/ef.f, mopac_source/flepo.f, mopac_source/nllsq.f,
mopac_source/powsq.f, mopac_source/wrtkey.f:
	Changed timing data formats since machines are so fast
	that timing resolution down to ten of milliseconds is
	required to run many of the test cases.

mopac_source/calpar.f:
	The DO 40 loop doesn't go over element 102 (Cb), so the correction
	made to the source code may be incorrect (at least it now
	produces the same output as the original Sun version).

mopac_source/drc.f:
	'*' format for long strings is not consistent across platforms,
	and results in 2 lines of titles on some systems.

mopac_source/esp.for:
	Routine ELESP does two OPENs on the ESP data output file;
	the second one fails since it tries to open a scratch file
	as "NEW" which is illegal.

mopac_source/repp.f:
	This routine divides by zero for capped bonds, which aborts
	the job on some systems and does lots of arithmetic with
	NaN/INF values on others; the code was modified to return
	all zeroes when this case was detected, but this may not
	be the correct action to take.

mopac_source/second.f:
	Attempts to REWIND unit 4 before OPEN; the REWIND was moved
	inside the OPEN/CLOSE.

mopac_source/wrtkey.f:
	The values for "T=" and "DUMP=" are not reset to a default
	value at the start of a new calculation, but are set to the
	time left from the last calculation, and the last specified
	DUMP value respectively; this is not documented in the manual,
	and nothing has been done by me to correct the situation, if
	it should be corrected since this seems to be the historical
	behaviour.
	The code to remove DEBUG keywords has been modified since
	the DEBUG keywords are not printed in the output file if
	this is done, and the removal was done in a way where either
	all of the keywords would be removed, or just until the first
	one was found, with the difference due to the vendor's FORTRAN
	implementation and optimization level used.

mopac_examples/port.dat, mopac_examples/testall.dat:
	Many timing changes made for "restart" jobs to work properly;
	MOPAC desparately needs a facility to kill the job after
	a specific number of iterations, so that test jobs can
	be made machine-independent.

Mike.

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I think it's been known for a long time (almost since it was actually created)
that the GROMOS definition is opposite to IUPAC. It is mentioned in the GROMOS
manual;  section 4.2. Obviously having the Leu and Val chiral carbons invert
during a run is going to have significant effects.

Tim, who checks every line in GROMOS topology files by hand.


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Hi,

I think that the following question which I found in some news group 
should be posed to the Computational Chemistry List:

Herbert

In article 29563@news.unige.ch, savary@sc2a.unige.ch () writes:
> Hi there over the net,
> 
> Does someone know the existence of table of data containing
> all the parameters for extended Hueckel calculations;
> that is :
> - standard Hii's (valence ionization potentials)
> - slater exponents and coefficents
> - charge iteration parameters (that part is the more important)
> 
> I already have the table of parameters, collected by Santiago Alvarez,
> from Barcolena. But a few of those parameters seem not so correct, in particular
> for the charge iteration parameters.
> 
> 
> Hope to hear soon from you
> 
> Francois Savary, University of Geneva, Department of Physical Chemistry
> 30, quai E. Ansermet, CH-1211 Geneva 4
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> savary@sc2a.unige.ch (e-mail)



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Subject: Excimer details


  Hellow Dear Netters,

Yesterday I posted a quiestion about excimer calculations. Thanks for
interest it brought about from some of you. People asked about details
of calculations and objectives. They are following;

I want to calculate excimer states of naphthalene dimer in parallel
conformation using supermolecule model of dimer. I need to find out
dependence of total energy of supermolecule on interplanar distance between
naphthalene monomers. Excited state of supermolecule corressponding to
HOMO->LUMO transition supposedly forms bound state at interplanar distance
3.3 - 3.5 A.
I also need to calculate second excited state of supermolecule. This state
is expected to be nonbonding, laying about 2.0 ev above excimer state at
bonding conformation of latter and approaching it at large interplanar
distances.

I have now a problem somehow close to one described by Dr T Bally in his
E-mail reply. 
According to Argus INDO1/s calcualtions ground state of supermolecule is
not repulsive at interplanar distances 2.0 - 3.0 A. As a matter of fact it
is attractive(!!!). 
MOPAC5 with AM1 Hamiltonian yields quite resonable results for ground state
of supermolecule. It predicts vdWaals bonding at 5.5 A interplnar distance and
repulsive ground state at interplanar distance shorter than 4.0 A.
The second problem with Argus is that at short interplanar distances
molecular orbital carrying LUMO features (which is antibonding) becomes an 
occupied molecular orbital in ground state. And conversely, MO corresponding
to HOMO of monomer becomes unoccypied MO. It is true for MOPAC5 AM1 too.

So these are problems I currently encounter in excimer calculations. 
I'll be glad to provide more details if needed.
Thanks in advance to all who are interested.

Rovshan G Sadygov.

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Subject: AIX sendmail is DANGEROUS !!!
Cc: jkl@ccl.net, vazquez@iqm.unicamp.br


Dear Netters,
Pedro  Vazquez agreed to share some comments on sendmail vulnerability
with AIX. I do not quote the prescription on how to use sendmail to
do ANYTHING with ROOT priviledges on the RS/6000 under AIX to protect
the innocent (you do not need to know this, do you?). However
you should replace the sendmail which you have now with a new version (8.6.4).
Moreover, the way to use a sendmail bug to break into your machine
was widely publicized on the Usened. So beware, jerks may know about it...
If you need more info, contact Pedro directly.

Some comments from Pedro:
From: Pedro A M Vazquez <vazquez@iqm.unicamp.br>
>Dear Jan:
>  I've just mailed the message below to the CERT people (...)
> I think all AIX users may be in danger, many of the our list coleagues
> use AIX machines but do not receive CERT reports (...)
> I have compiled sendmail 8.6.4 for AIX machines and I can make it availble
> in binary form for anonymous ftp.
>Regards
>Pedro

Thanks again Pedro for all your help...
Jan
jkl@ccl.net


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Organization: Inst. of Chem.Phys. Russia Acad. of Sci.
From: kukh@icph28.sherna.msk.su (Dr. Serge V. Kukharenko)
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Dear Netters:

Does anybody know about possibility to perform quantum
chemical calculation (HOMO/LUMO energy, molecular dynamics,
etc.) of transition metal sandwich and half-sandwich
pi-complexes (like ferrocene or cymantrene) with condensed
polyaromatic ligands (e.g. naphtalene, indenyl, fluorenyl)?
I realise that it is very complicated problem. Furthermore,
I have only a minor experience with calculation (PC Model and
HyperChem only). May be somebody is interested in performance
of above calculations and scientific collaboration with me?
I've obtained very interesting and unusual experimental results
on chemistry of the titled complexes and can send it upon
your request.

Please respond to me via e-mail, I can summarize answers to the
list.

-----------------------------------------------
Dr. Serge Kukharenko
Department of Kinetics and Catalysis
Institute of Chemical Physics in Chernogolovka
Russia Academy of Science
Moscow Region
Chernogolovka 142432
Russia
e-mail: kukh@icph.sherna.msk.su
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 14:11:06 -0500
From: shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu (Peter Shenkin)
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To: Jan Labanowski <jkl@ccl.net>, chemistry@ccl.net
Subject: Re:  AIX sendmail is DANGEROUS !!!
Cc: vazquez@iqm.unicamp.br, jkl@ccl.net



> From: Jan Labanowski <jkl@ccl.net>
> 
> Dear Netters,
> Pedro  Vazquez agreed to share some comments on sendmail vulnerability
> with AIX. .....

About two weeks ago CERT issued an advisory to the effect that
virtually all vendors' sendmails are vulnerable, so this is not news.
CERT proposed several workarounds;  please see their advisory for
details.  In addition, several vendors (SGI, for example;  I don't 
know about IBM) have made new versions of sendmail available, in some 
cases by anonymous ftp.

There was another, similar advisory about the xterm program.

Bottom line:  unless you have reason to believe otherwise, assume
that your sendmail and xterm programs pose security threats.

	-P.
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Peter S. Shenkin, Box 768 Havemeyer Hall, Dept. of Chemistry, Columbia Univ.,
New York, NY  10027;  shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu;  (212) 854-5143
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Hi, Netters!

I have included an attachment about my experience porting hondo 8.4
as provided in Chem-Station into a INDIGO R4000 running IRIX 4.0.5F.

I hope this is useful!

I am able to reproduce the examples as reported in the documentation.

good luck
gus mercier
mercie@cumc.cornell.edu

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