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From: ronnie@batata.fh.huji.ac.il (Ronnie Kosloff)
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Subject:  Embedded atom method


 Dear netters,

 May be anybody knows about Embedded atom method (EAM) program which is
available in Pablic Domain. I want to use this program to calculate
interactions of hydrogen with various transition metal surfaces. If anybody
knows of such a programs please inform me about its telnet or ftp location.
              Thanks
		Ronnie Kosloff


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From: ferenc@rchsg8.chemie.uni-regensburg.de (Ferenc Molnar)
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Subject: constraints


Dear Netters!

There are two questions I would like to discuss with you.

The first one deals with constraints in molecules.
How can I claculate the constrained virial if I use RATTLE
as an algorithm to solve the constrained problem?
Do I have to take the constrained virial into account when
I calculate the pressure of the system ? I think so, but I
am not sure how to do it.

The second problem is a different one. Somewhere I read about
the following phenomenon. In the simulation of solvens-solute
interactions the solute tends to cool and the solvent warms up.
Can anybody give me a hint on where to find information on this
topic.


Thanks in advance.

Ferenc





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From: dodik@yfaat.ch.huji.ac.il (David Danovich)
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Subject: Embedded atom method


 Dear netters,

 May be anybody knows about Embedded atom method (EAM) program which is
available in Pablic Domain. I want to use this program to calculate
interactions of hydrogen with various transition metal surfaces. If anybody
knows of such a programs please inform me about its telnet or ftp location.
              Thanks    David Danovich

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From: fant@fconvx.ncifcrf.gov (Andrew D. Fant)
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Subject: Compatability of Ab Initio results from different software Packages




Does anyone have any experience in how well Hartree-Fock energies calculated
by Gaussian 92 correlate with the same species calculated under GAMESS? 
The results are consistent with the trends I had been seeing under one program,
and they are also in agreement with the AM1 results I got from MOPAC.  
I know that given the same basis set and geometry the results OUGHT to be 
identical, but I am becoming more paranoid about numerical methods in general
lately, and I wanted to see if anyone had made a well-considered examination
of this question.

For what it's worth:  I did make a very small comparison (about 6 data-points)
between G92 and Spartan, and for HF and MP2, the energies of molecules 
geometry optimized by the respective programs were identical to the precision
of the platforms used.

Thanks for your input. 

Andy
Andrew D. Fant              Applications Analyst             fant@ncifcrf.gov
NCI-Frederick Cancer Research Facility        Biomedical Supercomuting Center
(301)846-5764             Me?!? Have an official NCI or Dyncorp Opinion? HAH!
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Subject: Benchmarks of new systems



	Once again I can provide benchmarks of new systems, with FULL compiler optimizations
in place. Actual configurations used are reported. I would suggest a minimum of 64 MB
on any DEC AXP system.
	If you want SYBYL on the DEC AXP series, better ask Tripos. Most other packages
run on the Alpha already.

	Berkley

Receptor-III (TM - Tripos Associates) Beta Release version V2.4 timings for the ACE
series. Uniform distance space scanning at 0.05A maximum increment with 
Adaptive Scanning in modified mode applied.  All bonds Adaptively scanned.
Minimum scan factor 0.45 degrees, maximum scan factor 2.81 degrees.

*******************************************************************************
Benchmarks of the complete ACE series of 71 molecules Modified scan factors
*******************************************************************************


Elapsed Child_CPU System_CPU  Chargable Forks  Ratio
======= ========= ==========  ========= =====  =====

    979   912.880     37.650    887.840     7  0.937 SGI Indigo 48Mb -O2 (R3K/33Mhz)
    926   855.010     55.830    829.661     7  0.929 SGI 4d/380s 128Mb -O2 (R3K/33Mhz)

    740   587.350      9.200    557.883     7  0.805 DEC 3K/300L AXP 32Mb STD "CC" -O2
    726   562.350     11.650    533.950     7  0.785 DEC 3K/300L AXP 32Mb GEM "CC" -O4
    661   558.133      5.083    541.450     7  0.852 E&S ESV M120 -O2 (R3K/45Mhz)

    783   472.460      8.340    461.310     7  0.606 SGI Indigo2 64Mb -O2 -mips2 (R4K/50Mhz)
    594   455.130      5.680    443.570     7  0.774 SGI Challenge M 96Mb -O2 (R4K/100Mhz)
    481   453.650      3.917    430.500     7  0.953 DEC 3K/300 AXP 32mb STD "CC" -O2

    411   381.400      4.100    363.817     7  0.939 DEC 3K/300 AXP 32mb GEM "CC" -O4
    527   364.010      4.910    352.730     7  0.700 SGI Challenge M 96Mb -O3 -mips2 (R4K/100Mhz)
    359   325.133      4.150    308.433     7  0.916 DEC 3K/300 AXP 32mb GEM "CC" -O4 -feedback

    239   212.367      1.503    200.117     7  0.904 DEC 3K/600 AXP 128mb GEM "CC" -O4 -feedback
    201   187.817      1.333    177.183     7  0.949 DEC 3K/800 AXP 256mb GEM "CC" -O4 -feedback

*******************************************************************************

Notes:

DEC AXP 3000/300L is 100 Mhz, 3K/300 is 150 Mhz, 3K/600 is 175 Mhz, 3K/800 is 200 Mhz
Many thanks to DEC for providing the 3K/600 and 3K/800 Machines.

The "GEM" compiler is in save set CMPDEVENH on the OSF/1 CD.
The "STD" compiler is the default "CC" for OSF/1.
KAP-C was not used; generated code hits a compiler bug in one routine :-(

"Child_CPU"  is the recorded total CPU for all forked processes, including
	     overhead and I/O.
"Elapsed"    is the recorded elapsed time from command line parsing to
	     the exit of the last child processes.
"System_CPU" is the recorded UNIX system overhead from the times() function
"Chargable"  is the algorithmic chargable time from initial rotations
	     to termination (child process CPU)

*****************************************************************************

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To: chemistry@ccl.net
Subject:  how to books
Message-ID:  <9312081330.aa13542@cbdcom.apgea.army.mil>



Dear netters,

I wish to add a few how to books of general interest to my library.
Specifically:

    how to optimize code (general)
    how to optimize FORTRAN code
    how to optimize C code
    how to write code for parallel computers

Any suggestions?

                                     Dr. Joel Cohen

From szilagyi@miat0.vein.hu  Wed Dec  8 13:57:39 1993
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Dear Andy,

	I tested the g92 and the GAMESS packages on
tungsten carbene complexes, using ECPs.

	The GAMESS with SBK ECP is much better than
the G92 LANL1MB or LANL1DZ. Now I am going to test
the origin of the differences. They are due to the basis
set or the software. I will summarize the results on net
and to you of course.

Cheers,

			Rob

From cletner@remcure.bmb.wright.edu  Wed Dec  8 13:58:24 1993
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From: Charles Letner <cletner@remcure.bmb.wright.edu>
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Hello all,
	Last week I posted a question concerning the kollman all-atom vs
the kollman united-atom force field.  I later sent a couple of references
to the board.  One of these by Kini and Evans.  I just found another paper
by them from 1992 that I thought some of you might be interested in.  It
compares the all-atom and united-atom versions of the kollman force field. 
That reference is:
	Kini, R. M., and Eveans, J. E., Comparison of Protein Models
Minimized by the All-Atom and United-Atom Models in the AMBER Force Field:
Correlation of RMS deviation with Crystallographic R Factor and Size, J.
Biomol. Str. & Dyn., 10, 2 (1992) pg. 265-279.
	Having said that, I've also just finished the series of two papers
by Roterman, Lambert, Gibson, and Scheraga (1989) from J. Biomol. Stru. &
Dyn.  These papers have me kind of stumped.  These papers compare CHARMM,
AMBER, and ECEPP for modeling proteins.  If I read them right they come
down pretty hard on these force fields.  In fact the last line of the
second paper says that conformational studies by these force fields may
give results that are "entirely misleading".  Further, they state that the
AMBER force field may be inappropriate for dynamics simulations.  I'm
getting ready to start some dynamics simulations using AMBER.  Obviously
I'm somewhat concerned now.  I would sincerely appreciate any comments
some of you might have on this paper.  Also any comments or references
that would help understand the validity of M/M and dynamics would be
welcome.
Thanks and I am looking forward to your comments.
Chuck
	 

Charles Letner
Wright State University
Department of Biochemistry
Dayton, OH 45435
e-mail: cletner@remcure.bmb.wright.edu



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From: "Tahmid I. Mizan" <mizan@engin.umich.edu>
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Subject: van der Waals parameters



Hi,

I address my question (probably a trivial question) to any obliging 
molecular dynamics guru:

Weiner, et al. (J. Comp. Chem. 7,230-252,1986) report non-bonded 
parameters for an aliphatic all atom carbon (sp3) as R* = 1.80 
angstrom and epsilon = 0.06 kcal/mol.

I assume this corresponds to a sigma,
       
     sigma = R*/2^(1/6) 

so that for the carbon sigma = 1.604 angstrom

but most other sources give much larger values 
of sigma,

       sigma = 3.35 angstrom  (Allen & Tildesley, p.21)

What am I missing here ? Obviously one value is about double
the other, why ?


Thanks in anticipation.

Tahmid Mizan

mizan@engin.umich.edu
)
What am I missing here ? Obviously one value is about double
the other, why ?


Thanks in anticipation.

Tahmid Mizan

mizan@engin.umich.edu



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Subject: Re: Protein Force fields


Charles Letner wrote:
> 
> 	Having said that, I've also just finished the series of two papers
> by Roterman, Lambert, Gibson, and Scheraga (1989) from J. Biomol. Stru. &
> Dyn.  These papers have me kind of stumped.  These papers compare CHARMM,
> AMBER, and ECEPP for modeling proteins.  If I read them right they come
> down pretty hard on these force fields.  In fact the last line of the
> second paper says that conformational studies by these force fields may
> give results that are "entirely misleading".  Further, they state that the
> AMBER force field may be inappropriate for dynamics simulations.  I'm
> getting ready to start some dynamics simulations using AMBER.  Obviously
> I'm somewhat concerned now.  I would sincerely appreciate any comments
> some of you might have on this paper.  

Peter Kollman and Ken Dill wrote a reponse to this paper: "Decisions in
Force Field Development: An Alternative to those Described by Roterman
et al."  J. Biomol. Struct. Dyn.  8:1103-1107 (1991) which is worth
looking at.

Charlie Brooks and I also considered some of the arguments in the
Roterman et al papers in our recent article in Chemical Reviews, 93:
2487-2502 (1993).

My view is that the phrase "entirely misleading" is a little harsh, but
it clearly depends on what aspects of the calculations you are looking
at.  Roterman et al do make a good point that some pretty fundamental
features of protein conformations are different with different force
fields, and one needs to be very careful in interpreting simulation
results.  There are often features of dynamics simulations that are
quite insensitive to the details of the force field; you might want to
consider a paper that Martha Teeter and I wrote for some examples: J.
Phys. Chem. 94: 8091-8097 (1990).

You might also want to consider some of the work of Julian Tirado-Rives
and Bill Jorgensen, e.g. JACS 112:2773-2781 (1990) and references
therein to earlier work.

This list just scratches the surface, but it may help you to get
started.


Hope this helps....dave case


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    Dear netters,
    
    I wish to add a few how to books of general interest to my library.
    Specifically:
    
        how to optimize code (general)
        how to optimize FORTRAN code
Consider High Performance Computing by Kevin Dowd from O'Reilly and
Associates.
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Dear netters:

  In reply to:
>From: Szilagyi Robert <szilagyi@miat0.vein.hu>
>Dear Andy,
>
>	I tested the g92 and the GAMESS packages on
>tungsten carbene complexes, using ECPs.
>
>	The GAMESS with SBK ECP is much better than
>the G92 LANL1MB or LANL1DZ. Now I am going to test
>the origin of the differences. They are due to the basis
>set or the software. I will summarize the results on net
>and to you of course.
>
>Cheers,
>
>			Rob

   I am sure Rob will find that the major difference is the basis set.
We have run many tests and the general conclusion is that GAMESS and
GAUSSIAN give the same energy (out to the seventh decimal place) IF
the same basis set, number of d's (6 or 5), geometry and wavefunction
are used.  Occasionally, different energies will result from different
initial guesses.  These are generally cases where the initial guess 
creates a wavefunction of the "wrong" symmetry (i.e. not the ground
state symmetry).  Either program will occasionally come up with the
"wrong" initial guess.
   Since GAMESS and GAUSSIAN use different optimization routines,
different geometries CAN be found.  Usually, however, for the same
initial geometry and same initial hessian the same final geometry is
found (within chemical accuracy).  I am probably biased, but I have
generally found that transition states are easier to find in GAMESS.  I
have had a couple of occasions where I couldn't find a transition state
with GAUSSIAN (given a "not too bad" starting geometry) that GAMESS
found in about 10-15 steps.  Optimization or transition state searches
are "tricky" things and the algorithm used can occasionally do different
things.
   Hope this helps!

Theresa Windus
Department of Chemistry
Iowa State University
Ames, IA  50011

e-mail: theresa@si.fi.ameslab.gov

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Subject: Winter School in Computational Chemistry.


Dear colleague,

Since 1989, the Theoretical Chemistry Group in Lund, Sweden
has organized a biennial European Summer School in Quantum
Chemistry, teaching the theory and methods of modern
computational quantum chemistry to graduate students and
postdocs in theoretical chemistry, as well as to students
and researchers at a corresponding level from other areas
of chemistry and from industry.

The teachers at this summer school have included Jan Almlof,
Nicholas Handy, Trygve Helgaker, Per-Ake Malmqvist, Jeppe
Olsen, Bjorn Roos, Peter Taylor, and Ulf Wahlgren.  The
courses have covered Hartree-Fock, MCSCF, CI, coupled-cluster,
energy derivatives, relativistic effects, magnetic & time-
dependent properties, second quantization, mathematical tools,
effective core potentials, and density functional theory. The
courses involve both lectures and supervised exercises/tutorials.
The school lasts for two weeks  and is held at an isolated
location in southern Sweden.  In the past, $800-900/student
has covered food, lodging and all of the course material
(the school is run on a non-profit, cost recovery basis.)

The two "American" members of the team (JA & PT) are now trying
to transplant the idea to the American continent (specifically,
southern California).  The school would take place during the
first two weeks of January 1995, and we are looking towards an
attendance of 50-75 students.  However, before proceeding further
we have decided to canvass the community for an indication of
the interest for such an endeavor.

At this point of the planning we find it important to
distinguish encouraging pats on the back in general from
predictions bordering on a tentative commitment. If the idea
is not going to fly, we'd like to know that now, rather than
find ourselves lecturing to empty seats in 1995!  Since we have
not explored possibilities for external funding yet, we cannot
predict the cost with any certainty, and we therefore request
your opinion on several different scenarios, listed below:

We ask for your cooperation in returning the bottom part of
this inquiry by the end of December.
Please forward this message to any other colleague who might be
interested in our endeavor.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

        NAME: _______________________________________

____________  I like the idea, but cannot predict participation
>from my institution at this time.

____________  I expect that I would send __ people if the cost
turns out to be $700/person or less.

____________  I would probably send __ people at a cost of no
more than $1,200/person.

Additional comments are appreciated.

Please respond before Dec. 31  to:

Jan Almlof               or:     almlof@chemsun.chem.umn.edu
Department of Chemistry
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis, MN 55455

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From: ross@cgl.ucsf.edu (Bill Ross )
To: chemistry@ccl.net
Subject: van der Waals parameters


	From: "Tahmid I. Mizan" <mizan@engin.umich.edu>

	I address my question (probably a trivial question) to any obliging 
	molecular dynamics guru:

Perhaps I'm not a guru, but here's what I know:

  Van der Waals interactions are parameterized by Lennard-Jones (L-J) 
  '6-12' potentials of the form
	
        E = AiAj/r^6 - BiBj/r^12

  where A and B parameters for the types of atoms i and j are derived for 
  the potential between two atoms of the same type. This same-type potential 
  curve can also be defined by the radius  (r *) corresponding to half the 
  internuclear distance at the point of minimum energy, and the potential 
  well depth ('e') at that internuclear distance. In this convention the 
  potential energy for the van der Waals interaction between atoms 'i' and 'j' 
  is defined as (r*ij, eij), where r*ij is (r*i + r*j), and eij is 
  sqrt(eiej). This is the convention which is used by AMBER.

So sigma is the internuclear distance at the potential minimum for 
two atoms, corresponding to R*ij. R* for a single atom corresponds
to the sound of one hand clapping, in that it can mislead one to
think that if the universe consisted of a single atom, that atom
would have a size.

Bill Ross

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From: Peter Karp <pkarp@ai.sri.com>
To: chemistry@ccl.net
Subject: Seeking DB of biochemical compounds
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I am working on a project that involves constructing a database of E.
coli biochemistry.  I am seeking a database of biochemical compounds
(amino acids, carbohydrates, etc -- compounds that act as enzyme
substrates).  Preferably the database would be public domain and/or
inexpensive.  Associated retrieval software for the database is not
important to me -- I wish to import it into the software environment
we are developing.  The data I am most interested in having is
compound structures and many synonyms per compound name.

If anyone can give me pointers to such a database, I would appreciate it.

Please respond to me directly as I do not read this list.

Peter Karp
pkarp@ai.sri.com

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From: anthony.scott@anu.edu.au (Anthony P Scott)
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Subject: QCPE 611 (Vibrate)


We have the vibrate program from qcpe (611) mounted on a SGI and it works
fine. However we have an IBM/RS6000 355 and would also like to get it
running on that machine also.

Has anyone done this. We have tried to compile it and it seems as though it requires a header file (fget.h) that exists on the SGI but not on
the IBM.

Any ideas anyone.

Oh by the way this program takes Gaussian log file output for a 
frequency job and displays the an animation of the normal modes.

Thanks in advance.

Tony Scott
Research School of Chemistry
Australian National University
Canberra, ACT, Australia

