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WARNING: political content
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I found the general tone of the long YSN cross-posting offensive and at odds
with some basic reasons behind the strength and success of this country. 
Briefly: 

1.  Brain drain is great for the receiving country (USA).

2.  Protectionism is great for the special group being protected, but
    at the expense of everybody else.

The job market stinks, I agree (I was frantic and discouraged on two occasions
and got lucky).  But "solving" the problem by expelling or excluding people who
have valuable skills (they're very similar to all of ours) is selfish at best
and fascist and xenophobic at worst.  Nothing to be proud of, in my opinion. 
Especially for scientists, who have long bragged that science is international,
transcends politics, etc. 

(Imagine how thin your favorite journal would be if only American-born citizens
were allowed to publish.)

Note that the international economy is not picking on scientists; jobs are hard
to find in most occupations.  And it's fortifying to keep in mind (as written
frequently in Physics Today) that a Ph.D. is an ASSET, not an anchor. 

Please direct flames to me personally; I'll post a summary if there's enough
interest.

Karl Irikura
irikura@enh.nist.gov

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    Thanks to all of you who help me with z-matrix of C60.


        Sanja


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Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]


I am currently doing FORCE calcuaions to reproduce IR / Raman experimental data

I would like to clarify a few points on the interpretation of the output.

	eg: of output from AMPAC (v2.1)

   I        67        68        69        70        71        72
 FREQ(I) 1366.7319 1390.1030 1395.4407 1423.7041 1441.6861 1449.8304

 MASS(I)   3.77921   3.06115   1.11094   3.79245   2.26716  10.52206

 DIPX(I)  -0.32584  -0.46142  -0.27128  -0.49568  -0.11089   2.31958
 DIPY(I)   0.31422   0.50441   0.55722   0.53976   0.47027   3.47399
 DIPZ(I)  -0.10781   0.07567  -0.15388  -0.24481   0.17432   3.01794

 DIPT(I)   0.46532   0.68780   0.63857   0.77264   0.51365   5.15335

............cut out

 VIB. 67    ATOMS  C  9  AND  H 10  SHIFT  0.75  ANGSTROMS    4.1%  RADIALLY
 FREQ.    1366.73  C 23       H 29         0.38               2.6%          

 VIB. 68    ATOMS  C  4  AND  H  5  SHIFT  0.41  ANGSTROMS    3.7%  RADIALLY
 FREQ.    1390.10  C 13       H 14         0.55               0.2%          
                   C 13       O 15         0.34              94.7%          
                   C 13       H 17         0.66               0.2%          

 VIB. 69    ATOMS  C  1  AND  H  2  SHIFT  0.44  ANGSTROMS    0.0%  RADIALLY
 FREQ.    1395.44  C  4       H  5         0.46               2.2%          
                   C 13       H 14         0.66               1.5%          
                   C 13       H 17         0.58               4.3%          

	1) Looking a VIB. 68, I read this as a C-O bond stretch as the radial
component is high for C13 to O 15. The stretch causes the atoms to move 0.34
Angstroms apart from each other.

	2) Some of the output details SHIFTs that are equivalent to bond
lengths, in the output above under VIB. 67 the C9 to H10 bond SHIFTS by 0.75
Angstoms. Is this the distance that the Hydrogen moves away from the carbon ???
If it is then is this not a bit large. If it isn't then what does SHIFT refer
to?
 	3) I can understand when I have a bond stretch, as the radial component
is high in proportion to the tangential motion, eg with VIB 68 we have 94.7%
radial motion. But how do I determine the difference between a "Wag" and a
"Scissor" which varies tangentially, in different directions?

	A few general points which seem fairly obvious:

Since these calculations are all in the gas phase, h-bonding and charge
interactions between molecules and solvent don't appear in the calculations.
Therefore the broadening of -O-H stretches etc won't be seen.

Also for complex (non-symmetrical) molecules there will be a large number of
vibrations which will involve a large number of bonds, how does one go about
assigning these vibrations to experimental data?


I look forward to hearing your replies and hope for some good advice, for
the interpretation of FORCE ouput.

Andy


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Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 13:49:19 +0200


Hello.

I run Gaussian92.
Usually, the method is RHF
and SCF is DIRECT.

I need advice.

Does anybody know what are the options
in the input of Gaussian92, which allow one
to read in the output the core energies H_nn 
for n-th molecular orbital?

Apart from this special question, there is 
more general one. Is there a means in Gaussian92
which allows one to get Coulomb integrals
J_nm for n-th and m-th molecular orbitals
and also exchange integrals K_nm ?

This quantities seems to be computed anyway,
for Gaussian92 provides in the output
molecular orbital eneries which are just
proper sums of above mentioned quantities. 

Alternatively, are there any quantities available
in the output of Gaussian92 which might be used
in a SEPARATE code to compute core energies H_nn, 
Coulomb integrals J_nm and exchange integrals K_nm ?

I call experienced users of Gaussian92 to kindly help.

Sincerely, 
Ayaz Bakasov.


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Dear netters

Cherwell Scientific is a specialist publisher of scientific software for the
Windows and Mac platforms. We publish programs in chemistry, molecular biology,
genetics, statistics, image processing, and other scientific disciplines. Our
programs are commercially marketed, documented and supported, with royalties
paid to the developers.

The Internet is wonderful but I wonder if there is scope for a good commercial
package which will make it even more useful for chemists

We do a fair bit of support for some of our programs by the Internet. On the
whole there is less of this for graphics programs. Presumably because the
handling of graphics on the net is still relatively problematic. Musing on this
and related matters it occurs to me that there is a need for a new chemistry
application. Let us call it the Chemists Information Manager. It would have
functionality in the following areas

(1) The efficient management of chemistry relevant file formats <molecule,
graphics, animation, smiles, etc>

(2) A lab-book or personal organiser functionality for ear-marking, managing
and
annotating information

(3) Some Tinformation agentU capability, so that the program could search and
locate resources on the Internet

If anyone has done significant work on such a project I would be very pleased
to
hear about it. It sounds as though some of this may be being done by WWW at
NIH,
see recent CCL posting.  I will summarise and post comments back to the list.


Best wishes

Adam Hodgkin
Cherwell Scientific
The Magdalen Centre
Oxford Science Park
Oxford	OX4 4GA
Tel:	44-865-784800
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adam.hodgkin@queens.oxford.ac.uk

From robby@frodo.ciam.unibo.it  Wed Jun 22 09:22:07 1994
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Hello Netters,

I  attempted to convert a Macromodel file in a Z-matrix with NEWZMAT
(Gaussian 92/DFT, Revision G.1) using a template Z-matrix. 
Command line is:

newzmat -immodel -ozmat -tzmat name_of_MacroModel_file <name_of_Template_Z-Matrix_file

NEWZMAT fails with the error:

-------------------------------------------------------- 
 Bond length on Z-matrix card number  11 is not positive.
 Internal inconsistency!                                 
 Error termination in Lnk1e.
--------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone have some experience about using this command ?

If necessary, I can send detailed output file.  


					Thanks in advance

                                        Roberto  



Roberto Maiani
Dept. of Chemistry "G.Ciamician"
University of Bologna ITALY
e-mail: robby@frodo.ciam.unibo.it
 

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	Hello world!

Can anybody tell me whether the program "charmm" of Professor Karplus in 
Harvard is available as shareware or from somewhere else, eg. directly from 
Prof. Karplus and if so, can you furnish me with email-address of Prof. Karplus
or somebody else? The european price for the source code is ~12000 US$, purchased
by MSI.


		Many thanks in advance 
						Karsten
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Subject: MP2 hyperpolarizabilities for G92?


With Gaussian 92 I can get analytic (as opposed to finite-field)
polarizabilities and hyperpolarizabilities at the Hartree-Fock level
by using the following line:

# HF/6-31G** POLAR

But when I try this at MP2 level,

# MP2/6-31G** POLAR

I only get MP2 polarizabilities.  No hyperpolarizabilities.  Page 37
of the G92 User's Guide says both should come out when doing RHF, UHF,
or MP2.

Has anyone had any experience with this and gotten MP2
hyperpolarizabilities from G92?
     	  	    	      Bryan

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From: "DR. DOUGLAS A. SMITH, UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO" <DSMITH@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
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Back in March, I asked for references and comments on the Morokuma energy
partition scheme.  I have posted the answers (19 in all) in a file called
morokuma.ccl in the pub.chemistry directory at the University of Toledo.
Instructions for obtaining this file via anonymous ftp are attached.

Doug

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From PHTH1@cc.newcastle.edu.au  Wed Jun 22 19:22:14 1994
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From: Tony Dyson <PHTH1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>
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Well, in typical internet style, my request for help with a NAG implementation
of fhi93cp has resulted in more "how do I get fhi93cp" messages than help
messages! :-)  Anyhow, for those who are interested, the code can be obtained
by anonymous ftp at 141.14.129.9:/pub/physics/fhi93cp/fhi93cp.tar.Z

I got this information from the document announcing the workshop I am going
to later this year dealing with DFT calculations, so I _presume_ this means
the code is in the public domain. However if you want to be sure of this,
you will need to contact the authors yourself.

I'm still hoping someone comes up with a NAG version!

	Tony Dyson
	Surface Theory
	Uni of Newcastle
	Australia


From C867BUC%SEMOVM.BITNET@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu  Wed Jun 22 19:23:41 1994
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Netters,

The contributions from Zacher and Irikura are deja vu all over
again.  We boomers who got our Ph.D.s in 1969 and following (mine
was 1970) recall how the bottom fell out of the market then and
how immigration policy was then much like as it is now -- skimming
the cream of the foreign Ph.D. population.  On the one hand, as
one whose parents were foreign born, I would hate to see artificial
barriers set up to immigrants.  On the other hand, I see the
government's immigration policy a tool of those whose job is to
fill vacancies.  (If they don't have 500 applications for every
opening, they have a labor shortage.)   I wonder how many of
the would be immigrants are from developing countries and how
many are recruited from the well paid laboratories and universities
of the European Union and Japan.  And then we have people whose
only goal is to drive a cab in Miami -- and eat regularly -- who
are sent back into a hell hole.

Tony Duben


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From jle@world.std.com  Wed Jun 22 20:22:18 1994
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Subject: Questions regarding MM3 atom types...



Folks,

	There are three atom types which I can't seem to figure out:

	16 - sulfonium sulfur
	70 - ketonium oxygen
	71 - ketonium carbon

I tried S(CH3) with the sulfur as type 16, but MM3 dies with error messages
about wrong number of bound atoms.  I also tried calling it a 15, 17 or 18
(assuming it would be retyped), but it didn't help.  I tried
CH2-O-CH3 with the 70/71 type pair, - the program accepted the type
assignments (and complained about missing params, which isn't my concern).
Is this a reasonable structure for types 70/71?

Any guidance/comments accepted!

Joe Leonard
jle@world.std.com

P.S. I'm using MM3(92) for those who are interested.

From friedman@tammy.harvard.edu  Wed Jun 22 20:22:56 1994
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Cc: friedman@tammy.harvard.edu


  
  Email me if you'd like to provide answers to the following questions:
  
  1)  Do most pharmaceutical firms have in-house molecular modelling
departments?
  
  2)  How large are these departments in proportion to the rest of the
company?
  
  3)  Are there any firms that provide molecular modelling services on
a consulting basis?  Has anyone here dealt with such a firm (or worked
for one? Or "are one"?)
  
  4)  What's the minimum hardware/software needed to create a molecular
modelling facility with a shot at actually helping drug designers?  What's
the minimum personnel?  Is one hyperactive system manager enough, or will
she have a nervous breakdown from trying to teach modelling to the chemists
while keeping the system running?  Would a chemist with some computer
background be better than a computer type with some chemistry background,
or will they differ only in the details of their suicide notes <grin>?
  
  I do not, repeat NOT, want to bring a new (or reincarnated old) holy
war to the list, so please email, don't post.  Summaries will be emailed
to those who express an interest.
  
  Many thanks,
  Dawn friedman@tammy.harvard.edu
  "Heteroaromatics and other compounds with amusing MOs"

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From: "DR. DOUGLAS A. SMITH, UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO" <DSMITH@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Subject: COMP Newsletter (Spring/Summer 1994 issue) on-line!
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Dear Computational Chemists and Others:

The Spring/Summer issue of the COMP Newsletter, the official publication of
the Computers in Chemistry Division of the American Chemical Society, is now
available on-line.  This issue contains 28 pages of useful articles and 
information about the COMP division, upcoming meetings, and other topics
of interest.  A partial table of contents includes:


Electronic Discussion Forum for Computational Chemists 
by Jan Labanowski and Charles Bender

Northern Illinois University Chemistry Gopher Site
by Steve Bachrach

A Sea-Change in Chemical Communication: Gophers and World-Wide-Web Systems
by Henry Rzepa

Opportunities in Computational Chemistry
by Allen Richon and Merry Ambos

Workshop on Building a Collaboratory in Environmental and Molecular Science
by Richard Kouzes, James Myers and John Price

Mosaic - You gotta have it!
by Tom Pierce

	
You can obtain the Newsletter in any one of four formats:

	text only (no graphics)				105 KB
	rich text format or .RTF (no graphics)		139 KB
	encapsulated Postscript (no graphics)		734 KB
	encapsulated Postscript (with graphics)	      7,560 KB

These are available via anonymous ftp as newslet1.txt, newslet1.rtf, 
compnop.eps and compp.eps in /pub/chemistry/documents/COMP_Newsletter. They
are also available at the via Gopher and WWW at CCl.

These files, plus their zipped equivalents, are also available at the 
University of Toledo via anonymous ftp.  The zipped files can be unzipped
using pkzip/pkunzip, and are significantly smaller (the files are 40 KB,
43 KB, 227 KB and 1,141 KB, respectively).  To access this site, follow
the instructions below.


     ftp  FTP.UTOLEDO.EDU (or 131.183.1.4)
     login: anonymous password: your_e-mail_address (please !).
     ftp> cd [.MMOD] for mail archives or cd [.CHEMISTRY....]
     for all other files.
     ftp> ls or dir (to  get the  listing of  all  files  which  are
     there.  Note this is a VAX VMS machine and ls -l will not work.
     ls will get you a short list, while dir will get you the more
     informative list, including sizes and dates of files.)
     ftp> get file_you_want.
     ftp> quit.



The newsletter also contains a form for joining the COMP Division.  Please
take advantage of it, you get quite a lot for only $5 per year.

The next newsletter, the Fall/Winter edition, will be prepared following 
the fall 1994 ACS Meeting in Anaheim.  Persons interested in contributing
a piece or an advertisement are welcome to contact me.



Douglas A. Smith
(WATCH FOR CHANGES IN THIS .SIG IN THE NEAR FUTURE)
Assistant Professor, Department of Chemistry
Center for Drug Design and Development
 and
Chairman-elect, ACS Division of Computers in Chemistry

The University of Toledo
Toledo, OH  43606-3390

voice    419-537-2116
fax      419-537-4033
email    dsmith@uoft02.utoledo.edu

