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Subject: QCPE does not answer
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:33:42 +0100 (MET)
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Hi netters!

Half a year ago, our computer center ordererd a license of MOPAC93. They 
sent the license sheet to QCPE and then ... nothing happenend! E-mails
were not answered. Does anyone of you made similar experience?

Greetings

Kay Kreidler

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From: adit@Kodak.COM (Adi Treasurywala)
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Subject: In praise of QCPE.


> From chemistry-request@ccl.net Thu Aug 11 08:58:36 1994
> From: ccl@probe.ac1.uni-duesseldorf.de (Computational Chemistry List)
> Subject: CCL:QCPE does not answer
> To: chemistry@ccl.net (Theochem-Liste)
> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:33:42 +0100 (MET)
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> Hi netters!
> 
> Half a year ago, our computer center ordererd a license of MOPAC93. They 
> sent the license sheet to QCPE and then ... nothing happenend! E-mails
> were not answered. Does anyone of you made similar experience?
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Kay Kreidler
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	I feel compelled to answer this one. I have had numerous
	interactions with the QCPE folks and with DOZENS of others in
	this community of ours (both vendors and non) AND I WOULD BE
	TRUELY HARD PRESSED TO THINK OF ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN NICER OR
	MORE PROMPT OR MORE HELPFUL than the folks at QCPE have been
	over the dozen or so years that I've been in this field. I
	would suggest that you pick up the phone and try to get a hold
	of one of them and straighten the whole thing out rather than
	going public at this point.

Adi M Treasurywala,Sterling Winthrop Inc,1250 South Collegeville Road,
PO Box 5000, Collegeville, PA 19426-0900,Voice (215)983-6610 FAX
(215)983-5559, INTERNET adit@kodak.com

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Subject: G92: CIS oscilator strengths
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Hello,
      I am wodering if it is at all possible to calculate oscillator
strengths for transitions from one excited state to another? I know the
default is the give oscillator strengths from the ground state to all the
other states that you extract, but what about otherwise??

                                                   Thanks

                                                    Fred


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From Jeffrey.Gosper@brunel.ac.uk  Thu Aug 11 11:31:32 1994
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From: Jeffrey J Gosper <Jeffrey.Gosper@brunel.ac.uk>
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Does anyone know if MOPAC 6 for use on SUNSparc stations (sun4) is
located anywhere on the net.

I've tried an archie search but only located MOPAC 7 for Solaris.

Thanks for any suggestions

Jeff Gosper 


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From: "E. Lewars" <elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
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Subject: THANKS FOR INFO ON MP2 FREQ SCALING


Thanks very much to everyone who gave me information on the scaling factor 
for MP2 freqs.  A recent ref, from Anthony P. Scott, is A. P. Scott et al,
Israel J Chem 1993, 33, 345: with the 6-31G* basis, MP2(FU) was 0.9427 and
MP2(FC) was 0.9434.
Again, thanks.
===
Errol Lewars
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A message appeared not long ago (beginning of the month) concerning the
visualisation of the Hessian from FORCE calculations in MOPAC jobs, In order
to obtain a better understanding of the vibrational modes calculated. I
reiterate this request for a program (commercial or otherwise) to help in 
FORCE data analysis.

	I will summerise the responses for the net...

Andy.
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From elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca  Thu Aug 11 11:37:03 1994
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From: "E. Lewars" <elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
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Subject: COMP CHEM ON THE PC


Andrew Smith asked about programs for comp chem on the PC.  He will already
have seen recommendations for HyperChem, MOPAC and AMPAC.  I might add to 
these an MM and an ab initio package.  The molecular mechanics program 
PCMODEL ismade by Serena Software, Box 3076, Bloomington, IN 47402-3076,
(812)333-0823. This has a nice GUI and will generate MOPAC input files
from mouse-drawn-MM-minimized structures, and will also display MOPAC
structures, which may be queried for bond length etc.  PC model cost ca.
$400 a couple years ago.  An ab initio program for the PC is Gaussian 92
for Windows, which is the complete G92 package for the 486 (386??) PC.  I
think it has no GUI itself, but can be used with a visualizing program like 
HyperChem, or maybe PCMODEL.  G92 for WINDOWS is 
ca. $650.  MOPAC and the pre-GUI AMPAC may be available at nominal cost 
from QCPE.
Errol Lewars
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From vijay@rose.chem.wesleyan.edu  Thu Aug 11 13:31:35 1994
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Subject: Summary of Responses


> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 19:16:14 -0400
> From: friedman@tammy.harvard.edu
> Subject: CCL:In-House vs. Contracted Mol Modelling/Drug Design
> Sender: chemistry-request@ccl.net
> To: chemistry@ccl.net
>   
>  Email me if you'd like to provide answers to the following questions:
>   
> 1)  Do most pharmaceutical firms have in-house molecular modelling
> departments?
>   
> 2)  How large are these departments in proportion to the rest of the
> company?
>   
> 3)  Are there any firms that provide molecular modelling services on
> a consulting basis?  Has anyone here dealt with such a firm (or worked
> for one? Or "are one"?)
>   
> 4)  What's the minimum hardware/software needed to create a molecular
> modelling facility with a shot at actually helping drug designers?  What's
> the minimum personnel?  Is one hyperactive system manager enough, or will
> she have a nervous breakdown from trying to teach modelling to the chemists
> while keeping the system running?  Would a chemist with some computer
> background be better than a computer type with some chemistry background,
> or will they differ only in the details of their suicide notes <grin>?
>   
> I do not, repeat NOT, want to bring a new (or reincarnated old) holy
> war to the list, so please email, don't post.  Summaries will be emailed
> to those who express an interest.
>  
>   Many thanks,
> 
> Dawn friedman@tammy.harvard.edu

Hi:

	I am interested in the summary of responses to the above survey and
hence have tried to contact Dawn Friedman@tammy.harvard.edu. I have sent 
two e-mail requests about two weeks ago and have received no response from him
thus far. I was wondering if his above e-mail address is still valid ? 
Secondly, has anyone from the net received a summary from him ? If so, can
you please post the summary to the net or directly to my e-mail address.
Many thanks in advance!

Vijay

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Subject:      Scaling Factors of Vibrational Frequencies
Those who are keen on empirical corrections to ab initio calculated
frequencies might be interested in the discussion in the following
reference:

R. S. Grev, C. L. Janssen and H. F. Schaefer, III,
J. Chem. Phys., 95,  5128, (1991)

This paper highlights possible sources of error in the use of such
scaling factors when calculating 'Zero-Point' Vibrational Energies.

Richard Bone

__________________________________________________________
 
 Richard G. A. Bone, PhD.
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From MARYJO@neu.edu  Thu Aug 11 15:31:38 1994
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I would also be interested in the summary of the
molecular modelling survey gathered by 
Dawn Friedman.  Why not send the summary to the
entire list?

Mary Jo Ondrechen

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Dear Net-Workers,

Like many of you out there, we are running our computational chemistry
software on Silicon Graphics workstations.  Since the Technical Support
we have received from SG over the years has been slow, cumbersome and
bureaucratic at times (even when on a Maintenance Contract), we are 
looking for alternatives.  Two third-party suppliers of maintenance for
SG systems that we have heard of (no endorsement implied) are Great
Eastern Technologies and Halifax.
   We'd like to ask everyone about their experience with those two, or
any other, companies supplying hardware and/or software maintenance for
SG systems.  Specifically, we would like to know:
- What were the response times?
- How useful were the answers given (for phone support)?
- How unbureaucratic was the access to tech. support?
- Was the on-site support (if included) satisfactory?
- How would you rate the value of the service compared to the one 
  provided by SG?

   Please answer to me directly.  I will summarize to the Net (only)
if I am being explicitly asked to do so.  Thanks in advance to
everyone.

Marc

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From jstewart@fujitsuI.fujitsu.com  Thu Aug 11 16:31:35 1994
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From: jstewart@fujitsu.com (Dr. James Stewart)
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Subject: Info. on contacting QCPE


The following information in how to contact the QCPE has
been provided by the QCPE Director, Richard Counts:

Address:   QCPE
           Creative Arts 181
           Indiana University
           Bloomington, IN 47405

E-mail:    qcpe@ucs.indiana.edu  (in the U.S.A)

FAX:       (812) 855-5539

Tel:       (812) 855-4784

I thank Adi Treasurywala of Kodak for a most diplomatic comment 
in praise of the QCPE.  

James J. P. Stewart



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From: CHMORA@LSUVAX.SNCC.LSU.EDU
Subject: About MOPAC 6 for MS-DOS.
To: chemistry@ccl.net
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I just got MOPAC 6 for MS-DOS which is Public Domain.
Does anyonw know if there is any difference between this version and the one
that QCPE sells?

Thanks.

Guillermo A. Morales


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From: Janet Del Bene <FR042008%YSUB.BITNET@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu>
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     In a 1992 paper we made some comparisons between computed
zero-point energies and experimental data for a small set of
hydrocarbons and carbocations.  The reference is
Del Bene, J. E.; Aue, D. H.; Shavitt, I. J. Am. Chem. Soc.
1992, 114, 1631.

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From: hou@agouron (Xinjun "Jason" Hou)
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Subject: RE: Info. on contacting QCPE


>From: jstewart@fujitsu.com (Dr. James Stewart)
>The following information in how to contact the QCPE has
>been provided by the QCPE Director, Richard Counts:
>
>Address:   QCPE
>           Creative Arts 181
>           Indiana University
>           Bloomington, IN 47405
>
>E-mail:    qcpe@ucs.indiana.edu  (in the U.S.A)
>FAX:       (812) 855-5539
>Tel:       (812) 855-4784


  In addition, QCPE info can be obtained online:

  ftp: 129.79.74.206, user name: anonymous; password: guest

  or keyword searchable:

  telnet 129.79.74.206, user name: anonymous; password: guest

Xinjun
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