From jesus@canarylab.chem.nyu.edu Mon Aug 29 04:41:56 1994 Received: from acf6.acf.nyu.edu for jesus@canarylab.chem.nyu.edu by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id EAA04476; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 04:02:28 -0400 Received: from canarylab.chem.nyu.edu by ACFcluster.NYU.EDU (PMDF V4.3-8 #5342) id <01HGGUTJCMTCQUFP1V@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU>; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 04:03:03 EDT Received: by canarylab.chem.nyu.edu (940406.SGI/931108.SGI.AUTO.ANONFTP) for @acfcluster.nyu.edu:CHEMISTRY@ccl.net id AA07961; Mon, 29 Aug 94 04:10:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 04:10:06 -0500 (EDT) From: jesus@canarylab.chem.nyu.edu (Jesus M. Castagnetto Mizuaray) Subject: CCL: PD EHT software? To: CHEMISTRY@ccl.net (Computational Chemistry List) Message-id: <9408290810.AA07961@canarylab.chem.nyu.edu> Organization: New York University, Department of Chemistry MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-length: 890 Hello all. Does anybody know about any PD EHT program (or programs) for Unix. I got CACAO from the CCL server, but would prefer to have something running in our Indigo, because transfering data to a PC is not an easy task, because of the way the machines are connected Also found in the CCL archives: forticon8.f, but no documentation except the one in the program, but for what I can see it was written with a VAX in mind. Thanks in advance for any lead/hint/idea. I prefer to receive info to my mailbox (below), I'll summarize to the list as soon as I got some answers. Greetings. ----- Jesus M. Castagnetto Mizuaray | "Organic Chemistry: The practice Dep.of Chemistry - New York University | of transmuting vile substances 4 Washington Pl, Room 514. NY 10003 | into publications" (The Last Word- jesus@canarylab.chem.nyu.edu | The Ultimate Scientific Dictionary) From JeanLuc.Verschelde@rug.ac.be Mon Aug 29 06:41:57 1994 Received: from mserv.rug.ac.be for JeanLuc.Verschelde@rug.ac.be by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id GAA05226; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 06:00:58 -0400 Received: from allserv.rug.ac.be by mserv.rug.ac.be with SMTP id AA28714 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:00:16 +0200 Received: by allserv.rug.ac.be (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA06209; Mon, 29 Aug 94 11:56:55 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 11:56:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jean-Luc Verschelde Subject: curve fitting To: OHIO SUPER Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 633 Hi all, Does someone knows where to find programs that fits gaussians to data. Thanks. =================================================================================== Verschelde Jean-Luc University of Ghent Lab. for Mathematical Physics | Lab. for Biochemistry | Krijgslaan 286 S9 | K.L. Ledeganckstraat 35 9000 Ghent | 9000 Ghent Belgium. | Belgium. Tel.:09/264 47 94 Fax:09/264 49 89 Email:Jeanluc.Verschelde@rug.ac.be =================================================================================== From mottin@univ-st-etienne.fr Mon Aug 29 10:42:08 1994 Received: from stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr for mottin@univ-st-etienne.fr by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id JAA08379; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 09:58:22 -0400 From: Received: by stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr (MX V4.0-1 VAX) id 3; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:58:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:58:17 EDT To: CHEMISTRY@oscsunb.ccl.net Message-ID: <00983ADF.3F5DEFCF.3@stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr> Subject: CCL:calc. electronic spectra...any free packages or sources? Hello net - I am looking for any program package (on MAC, VAX, RS600 or IBM PC) or sources (preference in C; I can port it on the new macintosh PowerPc) which calculates electronic spectra of large molecules (indole chromophore) from file format XYZ by semi-empirical scheme (CNDO/s,INDO/s, MRINDO/s). Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks in advance, stephane MOTTIN MOTTIN@univ-st-etienne.fr From elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca Mon Aug 29 13:42:02 1994 Received: from alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca for elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id NAA12727; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:12:13 -0400 Received: (from elewars@localhost) by alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA11167 for chemistry@ccl.net; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:13:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:13:05 -0400 From: "E. Lewars" Message-Id: <199408291713.NAA11167@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> To: chemistry@ccl.net Subject: REQUEST FOR INFO ABOUT MAC POWER PC Does anyone know (1) if the new(?) Mac Power PC (1) will run DOS and Windows (in addition to Mac) software, and (2) how it compares in speed to the Pentium? Thanks Errol Lewars Chem Dept Trent U Peterborough Ontario ==== From theochem@ctc.com Mon Aug 29 13:45:36 1994 Received: from server1.ctc.com for theochem@ctc.com by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id NAA12748; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:15:22 -0400 Received: by server1.ctc.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05155; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:17:00 -0400 Received: by eed02.ctc.com (920330.SGI/921111.SGI.AUTO) for @server1.ctc.com:chemistry@ccl.net id AA06313; Mon, 29 Aug 94 13:14:59 -0400 From: theochem@ctc.com (Douglas Smith) Message-Id: <9408291714.AA06313@eed02.ctc.com> Subject: morphology of zinc phosphate on steel To: chemistry@ccl.net (Computational Chemistry List) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:14:47 -0500 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1949 Dear Netters: I have question related to another project of interest. Since I have very little experience in this area, I thought I had better ask here for pointers before embarking on more of a literature search than I have done already. I am interested in modeling steel treated with zinc phosphate as an anti-corrosion material. I assume that I can approximate steel by creating an iron surface/cluster (I know this is not exact), but I do not have any clue about the morphology of the zinc phosphate on steel. I did a CAS Online search of (steel and zinc and chemistry) but came up with essentially nothing. Can anyone provide clues, pointers, information, etc.? I don't know too many people in materials science, so good networking information will also be appreciated. Doug -- Douglas A. Smith Theoretical Chemist Concurrent Technologies Corporation 1450 Scalp Avenue Johnstown, PA 15904 voice: (814) 269-2545 fax: (814) 269-2798 email: theochem@ctc.com !!!NEW!!! Stadnard Disclamur: All opinions, comments, mistakes, endorsements and odd noises are my own, not my employer's. and still: Douglas A. Smith voice: N/A Associate Professor fax: N/A Department of Chemistry email: dsmith@uoft02.utoledo.edu and Center for Drug Design and Development The University of Toledo Toledo, OH 43606-3390 +---------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | "The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the sea searching for | | a suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home | | for life. For this task it has a rudimentary nervous system. | | When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn't need its | | brain any more so it eats it. It's rather like getting tenure." | | --source unknown | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mxm@iris80.biosym.com Mon Aug 29 14:42:03 1994 Received: from bioc1.biosym.com for mxm@iris80.biosym.com by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id NAA13359; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 13:49:55 -0400 Received: from iris80.biosym.com by bioc1.biosym.com (5.64/0.0) id AA20714; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:49:09 -0700 Received: by iris80.biosym.com (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @bioc1.biosym.com:CHEMISTRY@ccl.net id AA08603; Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:49:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:49:20 -0700 From: mxm@biosym.com (Max Muir ) Message-Id: <9408291749.AA08603@iris80.biosym.com> To: CHEMISTRY@ccl.net Subject: Re. CCL:PROGRAM : ZINDO ?? Folks, ZINDO produces energy levels, molecular orbitals, energies of formation, population analyses, dipole moment, atomic charges, etc, and is parameterized for the first 30 elements, bromine and iodine, and the second row transition metals. SCF types: Restricted Hartree-Fock, Unrestricted Hartree-Fock, and Restricted Open-shell Hartree-Fock (which allows one to model compounds containing transition metal elements.) There is a wide range of calculation methods available (Extended Huckel, Iterative Extended Huckel, CNDO/1 and 2, INDO/1 and 2, PPP, etc) and ZINDO performs single point energy calculations, optimization calculations (to give ground or transition states), CI spectra to model uv-vis spectra (singlets, doublets, etc., Rumer general CI, GUGA CI, Frequency calculations (to characterize the optimized geometry) and Frequency Optimization calculations (to Optimize and then do a Frequency calculation). Along with this are options to calculate non-linear optical properties alpha, beta and gamma (static and frequency dependant). The user can apply a static electric field, point charges, and vary the strength and frequency of the field. ZINDO contains the Kirkwood Onsager's self-consistent reaction field model which is particulary useful for predicting the effects of solvation on stucture and on uv-vis spectra, and offers both spherical and elliptical cavity shapes. There is further info in the CCL archives. More details on ZINDO can be obtained by sending a message: select chemistry get info/software-packages/ZINDO.note to MAILSERV@ccl.net, or via gopher(port 73), WWW, anon. ftp(pub/chemistry) on gopher://www.ccl.net:73/11/info/software-packages I am also happy to discuss ZINDO with anyone by email. Regards, Max Muir From sling@euclid.chem.washington.edu Mon Aug 29 16:42:07 1994 Received: from euclid.chem.washington.edu for sling@euclid.chem.washington.edu by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id PAA16753; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 15:47:35 -0400 Received: by euclid.chem.washington.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32540; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:46:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 12:46:21 -0700 From: sling@euclid.chem.washington.edu (Song Ling) Message-Id: <9408291946.AA32540@euclid.chem.washington.edu> To: CHEMISTRY@ccl.net Subject: sign mystery Someone wrote not long ago on the sign confusions of the expansion coefficients, another way to check it up is to bring eigenvectors generated by one machine over to the other machine, and directly let the numerical H operate on it, to see if the eigenvectors are numerically good enough. If the cause of the sign confusion is indeed near-degeneracy, hopefully using real*16 will lift it up. Slightly perturb H differently on different machines will also lift the degeneracy, in different ways. From h.rzepa@ic.ac.uk Mon Aug 29 18:42:08 1994 Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk for h.rzepa@ic.ac.uk by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id RAA19659; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 17:46:04 -0400 Received: from sg1.cc.ic.ac.uk by judy.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <21688-0@judy.ic.ac.uk>; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 22:45:50 +0100 Received: from anxa04 by cscmgb.cc.ic.ac.uk (920330.SGI/4.0) id AA27947; Mon, 29 Aug 94 22:48:29 +0100 Message-Id: <9408292148.AA27947@cscmgb.cc.ic.ac.uk> X-Sender: rzepa@129.31.80.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 22:48:34 +0000 To: CHEMISTRY@ccl.net From: h.rzepa@ic.ac.uk (Rzepa, Henry) (Rzepa, Henry) Subject: Re: CCL:REQUEST FOR INFO ABOUT MAC POWER PC >Does anyone know (1) if the new Mac Power PC (1) will run >DOS andWindows >(in addition to Mac) software, There are bundles with Insignia solutions SoftWindows software. About 386 speed (although a new Apple emulator ROM is rumoured to double the speed). Wait also for a new Connectix product, which is supposed to be able to double PowerMac up in the I/O department >and (2) how it compares in speed to the >Pentium? In native mode, an 8100 is certainly faster than 66 MHz Pentium, and very probably 90 MHz. A PowerMac based on the PowerPC 620 chip may equal the MIPS R8000 in performance (so rumours have it). A Mac based on this will probably be the first >$15,000 system Apple have produced! Also awaited in the PowerPC 604 chip, which will improve the current 601 based products by perhaps factors of 2-4. Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, London, SW7 2AY. Tel: +44 171 594 5809. Fax: +44 171 594 5804. E-mail: rzepa@ic.ac.uk http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa.html. Sent via MacPPP/MacTCP using Eudora 2.02. From eslone@mason1.gmu.edu Mon Aug 29 19:42:06 1994 Received: from mason1.gmu.edu for eslone@mason1.gmu.edu by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id TAA20632; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:14:47 -0400 Received: by mason1.gmu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3/GMUv3) id AA23316; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:14:47 -0400 Message-Id: <9408292314.AA23316@mason1.gmu.edu> Subject: ISO To: chemistry@ccl.net Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Eric Slone" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 680 Does anyone know of any good Physical Chemistry multi-media type CAI programs for the IBM PC? Thanks, Eric ________________________________________________________________________________ J. Eric Slone Scientific Consulting Services Serving Government & Industry Since 1982 Internet: eslone@mason1.gmu.edu Compuserve: 73757,2776 "True science teaches, above all, to Fax: (703) 751-6639 doubt, and to be ignorant." Voice: (703) 461-7078 Miguel do Unamuno ________________________________________________________________________________ From AZHARI@FRCU.EUN.EG Mon Aug 29 19:43:19 1994 Received: from FRCU.EUN.EG for AZHARI@FRCU.EUN.EG by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id TAA20688; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:26:09 -0400 From: Received: from FRCU.EUN.EG by FRCU.EUN.EG (PMDF V4.2-11 #3805) id <01HGHNNYLVLS001AH0@FRCU.EUN.EG>; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 17:49:45 O Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 17:49:45 +0000 (O) Subject: experimental geometry --> summary To: chemistry@ccl.net Message-id: <01HGHNNYMEWI001AH0@FRCU.EUN.EG> X-VMS-To: IN%"chemistry@ccl.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear Netters; Thank you very for all the replay I got concerning the comparison between different experimental geometries. My original question was: < Can someone elaborate on the difference of the geometry by microwave, < electron diffraction and X-Ray. Can you give references. My understanding < is that the microwave geometry is better than the others but I do not know < exactly why. The following is a summary of all the replies I got. Adel El-Azhary Cairo University ======================================================================= From: IN%"lowrey@lsm.nrl.navy.mil" "AL LOWREY" 22-AUG-1994 15:57:40.30 To: IN%"azhari@FRCU.EUN.EG" CC: Subj: experimental geometries Gas Phase Electron Diffraction, Microwave Spectroscopy and Xray Diffraction determine different expoerimental geometries because they are measuring different internuclear separations. Broadly speaking, Xray diffraction measures the separation between centroids of electron density, electron diffraction measures average distances between nuclei, and microwave spectrospocy measures effective legnths of dipoles. Thermal efffects ore critically important for all these techniques and change experiemntally observed distances in different ways. None of these techniques directly determine an equilibirum molecular structure nor to they directly correspond to the structures produced by computational techniques. The method of combined techniques uses all this information. Good references are Accurate Molecular Structure by Domenicano and Hargittai published by Oxford and two voluems on gas phase electron diffraction published by VCH and edited by Hargittai and Hargittai. Bewst Wished Best Wishes, Alfred Lowrey lowrey@lsm.nrl.navy.mil ============================================================================ From: IN%"WSTEINMETZ@POMONA.claremont.edu" "Wayne Steinmetz" 23-AUG-1994 01:34:24.56 To: IN%"azhari@FRCU.EUN.EG" CC: Subj: microwave structures The full story is somewhat complicated and is discussed in detail in D. R. Lide, Jr. and M. A. Paul, ed. Critical Evaluation of chemical and Physical Structural Information, National Academy of Sciences, US, Washington, D.C., 1974. ISBN 0-309-02146-4 . A complete microwave study is the most reliable for the following reasons: a) The structure is based on frequencies measured to 1 part in ten million rather than intensities. If the spectroscopic transitions can be correctly assigned, the entire study can be done with a mixture. A mixture of species is a source of systematic error when the structural method such as electron diffraction depends on the measurement of intensities. b) The frequencies of the individual spectroscopic transitions are related to a well known, well defined quantum mechanical model. Molecules with large amplitude motion can be difficult to handle. c) In the cases where the contributions from vibrational motion can be removed, the structure corresponds exactly to that calculated from ab initio methods. This can be done easily in the case of diatomics and with considerable effort in the case of triatomics. d) With polyatomics, a good structure is based on data from isotopically substituted species. Most but not all of the contributions from vibrations have been removed in the resulting rs structure. The Allinger group which has produced the MM2 and MM# force fields has to worry about the issue which you raised and has empirical correction factors for structural data derived from theoretical and experimental methods. Biosym also has a first-class force field and has to use structural data to test it and would naturally be concerned about the integrity of the data. ======================================================================= From: IN%"PA13808@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU" 23-AUG-1994 02:46:32.32 To: IN%"chemistry@ccl.net" "netters" CC: Subj: CCL:Accurate Molecular Structures For a very comprehensive discussion of the accuracy and meaning of geometry parameters I suggest the book "Accurate Molecular Structures Their Determination and Importance." Ed. A. Domenicano and I Hargattai. published by the International Union of Crystallography and Oxford Univ. Press 1992. The paper by Kozo Kuchitsu (pages 14-46)on the meaning of internuc lear distances and a number of papers following it are essential information for anyone attempting to use experimental geometry in their calculations. See also Calloman et al Molecular Constants. Landolt-Bornstein. Numerical data and functional relationships in science and tech. New Series Group II vol 14b Springer, Berlin, also vol 15 and maybe later vols. Bankrupt your university by asking them to buy the set. (The OUPress book has ISBN number 0-19-855556-3) John E. Bloor,Univ of Tenn(Pa13808 at UTKVM1.utk.edu) ======================================================================= From: IN%"bradt@gac.edu" 24-AUG-1994 07:08:38.45 To: IN%"CHEMISTRY@ccl.net" CC: Subj: CCL:experimental geometry Adel El-Azhary writes: > Can someone elaborate on the difference of the geometry by microwave, > electron diffraction and X-Ray. Can you give references. My ynderstanding > is that the microwave geometry is better than the others but I do not know > exactly why. What's "better" depends on the molecule and what information you want. First off, ED and XRay give you gas-phase, i.e. isolated molecule, info, which may or may not be what you want. Also, neither can handle large species. When both ED and MW can give you a structure, bond distance differences are likely to be at the .00x Angstrom level. It's important to remember vibrational amplitudes are .0x Angstroms! Both ED and MW measure some sort of average distance, and just what average that is depends both on the experimental method and on the way the distances were deduced from the data. And common methods of data treatment, for both ED and MW, can go pathological in the hands of the naive or careless user. [But of course, that sort of thing never happens to theorists. :) ] So in terms of the real world and the measurements we can make on it, all those digits (past, say, .01 Angstrom and 1 degree) in geometries we get from Gaussian 92 don't have a lot of significance. There's an extensive literature on just what ED and MW distances "mean." I really don't recommend it to those outside the fields unless you badly need to know! | H. Bradford Thompson [Brad] bradt@gac.edu | Scholar in Residence, Chemistry & Physics | Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter MN 56082-1498 ======================================================================= From: IN%"bradt@gac.edu" 24-AUG-1994 14:52:04.08 To: IN%"CHEMISTRY@ccl.net" CC: Subj: CCL:experimental geometry (correction) Sorry. In my message on "exerimental geometry" this morning I said: > What's "better" depends on the molecule and what information you want. > First off, ED and XRay give you gas-phase, i.e. isolated molecule, info, > which may or may not be what you want. Also, neither can handle large > species. I meant to say, ... ED and MW, in contrast to XRay, give you gas-phase, i.e., isolated molecule, info. .... A classic case of the fingers getting behind the brain. Thanks to Gary Newton for calling this to my attention promptly. | H. Bradford Thompson [Brad] bradt@gac.edu | Scholar in Residence, Chemistry & Physics | Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter MN 56082-1498 ======================================================================= From: IN%"adit@Kodak.COM" 24-AUG-1994 17:58:35.77 To: IN%"AZHARI@FRCU.EUN.EG" CC: Subj: RE: CCL:experiemental geometry by microwave spectroscopy Adel, This is a common question that several people have. Look at the book : Molecular Mechanics by Ulrich Burkert and Norman Allinger ACS monograph#177 where this question has been dealt with (see page 6 to 8 for example.) Good Luck. Adi M Treasurywala,Sterling Winthrop Inc,1250 South Collegeville Road, PO Box 5000, Collegeville, PA 19426-0900,Voice (215)983-6610 FAX (215)983-5559, INTERNET adit@extreme.chem.rpi.edu From szeinfel@snfma1.if.usp.br Mon Aug 29 20:42:06 1994 Received: from snfma1.if.usp.br for szeinfel@snfma1.if.usp.br by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id TAA20943; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:58:48 -0400 Received: (szeinfel@localhost) by snfma1.if.usp.br (8.6.8/8.6.4) id UAA00914; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:58:14 -0300 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:58:13 -0300 (EST) From: Rafael Iosef Najmanovich Szeinfeld {S Subject: How to subs./unsubscribe ? To: computational chemistry Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I can't find informations on how to subscribe or unsubscribe. Actually I just want to change the address. Thanks for your help. Rafael. *----------------------------------------------------- * Rafael Iosef Najmanovich Szeinfeld * Dept. Biochemistry -Chemistry Institute * Dept. Mathematical Physics -Physics Institute * University of Sao Paulo * * szeinfel@fox.cce.usp.br, szeinfel@snfma1.if.usp.br * 1762545@cat.cce.usp.br *------------------------------------------------------ From dulles@prometheus.chem.umn.edu Mon Aug 29 21:42:07 1994 Received: from ns.unet.umn.edu for dulles@prometheus.chem.umn.edu by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id UAA21658; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 20:56:52 -0400 Received: from prometheus.chem.umn.edu by ns.unet.umn.edu (5.65c) id AA22802; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:56:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 19:57:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Fred Dulles To: CHEMISTRY@ccl.net Subject: Re: CCL:REQUEST FOR INFO ABOUT MAC POWER PC In-Reply-To: <9408292148.AA27947@cscmgb.cc.ic.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 Aug 1994 h.rzepa@ic.ac.uk wrote: > > There are bundles with Insignia solutions SoftWindows software. > About 386 speed (although a new Apple emulator ROM is rumoured to > double the speed). > > Dr Henry Rzepa, Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College, London, SW7 2AY. > If I read MacWeek and USENET Mac groups correctly, the rumored new emulator (which may or may not work on current PPC based Macs) will double the speed of 680x0 (i.e. the original Mac CPU architecture) emulation rather than Intel emulation. All in all, I would guess that the Insignia software is fine for occasional use, but if you really want an Intel machine, a Mac isn't the answer. I can say from experience that the PPC Macs make fine machines generally and are wonderfully fast running native code. Now all we need is a Mac version of Gaussian92... -Fred Dulles __ Fred Dulles dulles@prometheus.chem.umn.edu Department of Chemistry, University of Minnesota From ramon@ce.ifisicam.unam.mx Mon Aug 29 21:43:15 1994 Received: from ce.ifisicam.unam.mx.ifisicam.unam.mx for ramon@ce.ifisicam.unam.mx by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id VAA21807; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 21:08:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199408300108.VAA21807@www.ccl.net> Received: by ce.ifisicam.unam.mx (1.38.193.3/16.2) id AA23894; Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:08:39 -0500 From: Ramon Garduno Subject: Need advice on SGI IRIX versions To: chemistry@ccl.net (POST MSG's) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 94 19:08:38 CDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Dear Netters: I have installed IRIX 4.0.5 on my SGI Personal IRIS, but some applications do not work at all, e.g. InsightII v2.0.0 from BIOSYM. I have been told by other fellow InsightII users that most likely I did not installed properly IRIX 4.0.5. Nevertheless, I have seen InsightII working fine with IRIX 4.0.4 since most of them complained of IRIX 4.0.5. Now, I have now IRIX 4.0.4, but here goes the BIG QUESTION! Can I install IRIX 4.0.4 over IRIX 4.0.5 without any complains from the machine?. I am afraid that some software like NFS 4.0.1, Development System 4.1.1, Ansi C 3.10.1, Fortran 3.5.1, IRIS Explorer 1.0, ImageVision Tools 1.0.3, Motif Development System, 4.0.5, Network File System Maint, 4.0.5, and NetLS LSSERVER, 1.0.1, that are installed already, will go bananas once IRIX 4.0.4 is running. Is it better to give another chance to IRIX 4.0.5?. If so, how shall I check that all parts of the execution environment are being installed? Thank you to all in advance. P.S. Please, do not waste bandwith, send all your comments to me. If enought interest arises, I will sumarize to the net. -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Dr. Ramon Garduno-Juarez Research Professor in Biophysics INSTITUTO DE FISICA | EMAIL: ramon@ifisicam.unam.mx UNIVERSIDAD NAL. AUTONOMA DE MEXICO | rgard@redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx Laboratorio de Cuernavaca | VOICE: (73)175388 Apdo. Postal 139-B | (73)111611 62191 Cuernavaca, Morelos | FAX: (73)111603 MEXICO | (73)173077 ___________________________________ EOF _____________________________________ From sxj23@slc12.INS.CWRU.Edu Mon Aug 29 16:33:20 1994 Received: from slc12.INS.CWRU.Edu for sxj23@slc12.INS.CWRU.Edu by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id QAA18064; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:33:17 -0400 Received: (sxj23@localhost) by slc12.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.6.8.1+cwru/CWRU-2.1-freenet) id QAA00593; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:33:12 -0400 (from sxj23) Message-Id: <199408292033.QAA00593@slc12.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 16:33:12 -0400 From: sxj23@po.CWRU.Edu (Shu-Chuan Jao) To: chemistry@ccl.net Subject: summary unix_rm Reply-To: sxj23@po.CWRU.Edu (Shu-Chuan Jao) Hi! I posted a question on Aug. 23 and I got some answers. Although I did not get my files back as most people think, I do get some good advices. I thank those who tried to help. QUESTION: Hi! I am really in a big trouble. I accidentally typed "rm *" and, as you can image, all my files in that directory are gone. We did not do backup. So, I cannot restore those files. I know that there are some packages that can do "undelete" on DOS to recover files which are deleted. Is there package doing the same thing for unix? ANSWER SUMMARY: 1/ include alias rm rm -i in .login file If you want to override this for a large number of files, you can then do something like \rm * or /bin/rm * 2/ From the UNIX Shell FAQ How do I "undelete" a file? Someday, you are going to accidentally type something like "rm * .foo", and find you just deleted "*" instead of "*.foo". Consider it a rite of passage. Of course, any decent systems administrator should be doing regular backups. Check with your sysadmin to see if a recent backup copy of your file is available. But if it isn't, read on. For all intents and purposes, when you delete a file with "rm" it is gone. Once you "rm" a file, the system totally forgets which blocks scattered around the disk comprised your file. Even worse, the blocks from the file you just deleted are going to be the first ones taken and scribbled upon when the system needs more disk space. However, never say never. It is theoretically possible *if* you shut down the system immediately after the "rm" to recover portions of the data. However, you had better have a very wizardly type person at hand with hours or days to spare to get it all back. Your first reaction when you "rm" a file by mistake is why not make a shell alias or procedure which changes "rm" to move files into a trash bin rather than delete them? That way you can recover them if you make a mistake, and periodically clean out your trash bin. Two points: first, this is generally accepted as a *bad* idea. You will become dependent upon this behaviour of "rm", and you will find yourself someday on a normal system where "rm" is really "rm", and you will get yourself in trouble. Second, you will eventually find that the hassle of dealing with the disk space and time involved in maintaining the trash bin, it might be easier just to be a bit more careful with "rm". For starters, you should look up the "-i" option to "rm" in your manual. If you are still undaunted, then here is a possible simple answer. You can create yourself a "can" command which moves files into a trashcan directory. In csh(1) you can place the following commands in the ".login" file in your home directory: alias can 'mv \!* ~/.trashcan' # junk file(s) to trashcan alias mtcan 'rm -f ~/.trashcan/*' # irretrievably empty trash if ( ! -d ~/.trashcan ) mkdir ~/.trashcan # ensure trashcan exists You might also want to put a: rm -f ~/.trashcan/* in the ".logout" file in your home directory to automatically empty the trash when you log out. (sh and ksh versions are left as an exercise for the reader.) MIT's Project Athena has produced a comprehensive delete/undelete/expunge/purge package, which can serve as a complete replacement for rm which allows file recovery. This package was posted to comp.sources.misc (volume 17, issue 023-026) 3/ similar to 2/ Put these lines in your .cshrc: if ( ! -d ~/trash ) mkdir ~/trash alias trm 'mv -f \!* ~/trash' alias untrm 'mv -f ~/trash/\!* .' alias del \ '/bin/ls -AsF \!* && echo -n "Remove? " && if ($< == y) mv -f \!* ~/trash' trm moves the files to a trash directory. untrm moves them to where you are. del will list the files and ask if you want them deleted. If so, they are moved to trash. I didn't invent these, but I do not remember the source. Perhaps "Unix Power Tools". 4/One thing which you can do, which I've done after losing an important, small text file I was working on (due to a software crash - but the cause is unimportant, the solution is the same) was to immediately shut off the system, boot it up into maintenace mode, and run od -c on the raw disk device, piping it through to grep looking for some key phrases in my text file. When I got a hit, I used the address info to set the skip parameter on a following run of dd on the raw disk, with the output written to the temp directory on the root partition. I was able to find most of the text this way. 5/ There ARE companies that specialize in recovering "unrecoverable" data from hard drives. Recently, another department lost a lot of data on a workstation drive and used the services of such a firm. It cost them approximately $750 to retrive the data files from a 200MB hard drive, and the process took about a week. If the data is very important and difficult or impossible to replace, you may consider this possibility. The people in the department I mentioned were very happy with this service. The company is called "Computer Peripheral Repair" and they are in Royal Palm Beach, Florida. Their telephone number is (800) 765-9292. 6/ One suggestd I can use sccs (source code control system) that saves backup versions of files automatically. ANSWER 4 and 5 are from other source than CCL. 7/This was posted to comp.archives a little while ago. It may help.... >X-Url: ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/sysadm/recover.tar.Z Archive-Name: auto/comp.unix.admin/File-recovery-program Below is a "Dr. File System" article I wrote as commentary on possible solutions to the problem of recovering lost files on UNIX systems, especially those using the Berkeley Fast File System. The article observes that it should be possible to write a program which examines the cylinder group free fragment bit maps. Once you have the bit maps, it is fairly easy to read the free blocks of the file system and examine the old data in them. A few months ago I removed some program sources that hadn't been backed up yet and were long enough I didn't want to type them in again. So, I wrote the program loosely described by the article. Having been careful not to disturb the free list of the disk while writing this program, I got back the previous sources. More recently, I dusted off the program, updated it to run on DEC OSF/1 and fixed the stupidly slow parts to go faster. A compressed archive of the program has been placed on: gatekeeper.dec.com:/pub/sysadm/recover.tar.Z ************************ Dear Dr. File System, I just typed "rm -r" by accident in the wrong place and all my files are gone. How do I get them back? Oh, by the way. I don't have any backups... signed, Clueless Dear Clueless, You stupid twit! [ and off Dr. File System goes into his usual rant about not keeping good backups... ] * * * While Dr. File System is ranting, perhaps we can help Clueless with his problem (and make a bundle of money off software consulting services in the process). First examine what rm(1) really does: Process the argument list, making note of which options are used. For all remaining arguments, if the argument is ".." continue. Otherwise "remove" it. "Removing" consists of taking care of details like not being able to remove directories, except as part of a recursive remove, making sure the file is really there, etc. In the end, it comes down to doing an unlink(2) on the filename. The unlink(2) system call removes the file's name and inode number from the directory and decrements the link count. It is worth pointing out for those that didn't know it already that a file can have many names, but only one inode. The inode includes a reference count of how many names it has. These references are also called hard links. When the link count goes to zero AND the file is no longer open, then the file is removed. Thus it is possible to create a file, unlink it (removing the name) and let the opening processes continue to use it. When the file is closed or the process exits, the file goes away. Actually getting rid of the file consists of putting the blocks it was using back on the "free list" and clearing the inode. For the fast file system this "free list" is actually a bit map for each cylinder group. A simple system macro is used to calculate the cylinder group number from the block number. It's also worth noting that neither rm(1) nor the file system do anything with the contents of the block when it removes the file or puts the block on the "free list". Using this collection of information it may be possible to help Clueless recover some of his data. The first, absolute most important thing to do is make sure the file system changes as little as possible. This may require rather extreme measures (like shutting down or crashing the system). The point of this is to prevent the blocks that were part of Clueless' files from getting allocated to other users. Making a PHYSICAL backup of the partition holding the file system is a good idea. This will let the recovery operate on a copy of the data, while returning the disk to the service of the people that might be using it. Now to the recovery. First, recall that the inodes were cleared when the files were removed. If they hadn't been, it would be fairly simple matter to examine all the free inodes to determine which had been owned by Clueless and look at the block lists to determine where the data was. This avenue isn't available to us, though. What remains is the examination of the data on the disk in the hopes of picking out the pieces that were part of Clueless' files and putting them back together like many jigsaw puzzles. The methods for this examination can vary from brute force approach to a highly optimized one. Consider the choices. 1. Theme - Examine every LBN of the disk. Pick out the LBNs that were probably interesting and ignore the rest. This has the disadvantage of not throwing out blocks allocated to other people and those that are part of the file system's data structures. 2. Variation #1 - Observe that the Fast File System is organized in pieces of data having two sizes; the fragment and the file block size. Depending on the allocation scheme only the block size may be interesting. The only advantage this has over the Theme is that there are few blocks to examine. 3. Variation #2 - The skilled mechanic can easily identify what file system block belong to the file system overhead and what blocks are data. This is bound to help some. 4. Variation #3 - Observe that only free blocks are likely to contain Clueless' data. Each cylinder group has a bit map of the free space for that cylinder group. If the skilled mechanic is able to filter out the file system overhead, then limiting the search to the free list, shouldn't be that much harder. 5. Variation #4 - The value of this optimization depends on exactly what Clueless removed and how the files were arranged. If the files were in a directory and only the file in that directory were removed (no subdirectories), then we can make a good guess where to start the search. Recall from previous discussions that when a file is created it prefers to end up in the same cylinder group as the directory in which it resides. If you can determine what cylinder group the directory of interest is in, then you can start the search in that cylinder group. While you may still have to search all the cylinder groups to find all the data, there is a chance that you can recover an interesting amount of the quickly. A program to do such a search is not exceeding difficult with enough study of the file system include files and a good starting example. A good version of the program would perform some data analysis of each block in the hopes of identifying it. Sort of like file(1). A further enhancement would allow formatting the data in various ways, like od(1). 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5.4k Mar 28 00:00 ftp.edu.tw /Operating-Systems/NetBSD/NetBSD-cu 2.1k 1993 Sep 11 ftp.edu.tw /USENET/alt.sources/comp/unix/misc/ moers2.edu.tw (Taiwan) 10.8k 1991 Apr 17 moers2.edu.tw /pub/uunet/packages/bsd-sources/usr ftp.ntu.edu.tw (Taiwan) 9.5k 1990 Dec 27 ftp.ntu.edu.tw /Macintosh/umich-mac/hypercard/hype 36.0k 1993 Oct 10 ftp.ntu.edu.tw /Macintosh/umich-mac/util/diskfile/ --- Jul 25 00:32 ftp.ntu.edu.tw /Operating-Systems/Linux/system/Rec 5.4k Mar 28 00:00 ftp.ntu.edu.tw /Operating-Systems/NetBSD/NetBSD-cu unix.hensa.ac.uk (United Kingdom) --- Jun 23 02:34 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/sunsite/pub/Linux/system/Recov 2.1k Jul 17 21:53 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/uunet/doc/music/guitar/i/indig 44 Jul 26 03:03 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/uunet/doc/music/guitar/new_thi 10.8k 1991 Apr 16 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/uunet/systems/unix/bsd-sources 1.7k May 5 15:47 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/walnut.creek/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-c 3.2k Apr 20 07:07 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/yggdrasil/usr/X386/lib/X11/gwm 9.0k Apr 11 12:44 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/yggdrasil/usr/man/man8/news-re 1.4k 1993 Sep 2 unix.hensa.ac.uk /pub/yggdrasil/usr/src/X11/contrib/ ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk (United Kingdom) 3.3k 1993 Jul 11 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/operating-systems/Linux/ 3.3k 1993 May 17 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/operating-systems/Linux/ --- Jun 23 03:35 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/operating-systems/Linux/ 1.7k May 5 16:48 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/operating-systems/unix/F 10.8k 1991 Apr 17 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/operating-systems/unix/b 6.5k 1993 Jan 5 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/systems/amiga/disk/salv/ 1.4k 1993 Jan 7 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/systems/amiga/disk/salv/ 53.3k 1993 Oct 6 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /computing/systems/mac/info-mac/tex 645 1993 May 25 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /media/literary/collections/e-seria 1.5k 1993 May 8 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /media/literary/collections/e-seria 3.9k Jul 8 07:07 ftp.doc.ic.ac.uk /usenet/comp.archives/auto/comp.uni mushroom.cs.man.ac.uk (United Kingdom) 3.1k 1991 Feb 22 mushroom.m...an.ac.uk /pub/goodies/uiuc/st80_pre4/MoDE/R ftp.mcc.ac.uk (United Kingdom) 3.3k 1993 Jul 12 ftp.mcc.ac.uk /pub/linux/fi.mirror/images/MCC-int 3.3k 1993 May 17 ftp.mcc.ac.uk /pub/linux/fi.mirror/images/MCC-int 3.3k 1993 May 17 ftp.mcc.ac.uk /pub/linux/fi.mirror/images/MCC-int 3.3k 1993 Jul 11 ftp.mcc.ac.uk /pub/linux/mcc-interim/old/0.99.p10 3.3k 1993 May 17 ftp.mcc.ac.uk /pub/linux/mcc-interim/old/0.99.p8+ ftp.warwick.ac.uk (United Kingdom) --- Jul 18 16:16 ftp.warwick.ac.uk /pub/linux/sunsite.unc-mirror/syste 144.0k 1993 Jan 7 ftp.warwick.ac.uk /pub/sun-fixes/4.1.3/100551-03-back -- o-----------------------------------------------------------------o | Shu-Chuan Jao (Chris) TEL : 216-368-4476 | | E-mail : sxj23@po.cwru.edu OR chrissie@laurel.chem.cwru.edu | o-----------------------------------------------------------------o From kumikoi@isadora.fsba.com Mon Aug 29 23:43:25 1994 Received: from mail.barrnet.net for kumikoi@isadora.fsba.com by www.ccl.net (8.6.9/930601.1506) id XAA23150; Mon, 29 Aug 1994 23:27:02 -0400 Received: from fujitsu1.fujitsu.com by mail.barrnet.net (5.67/1.37) id AA02723; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:27:01 -0700 Received: from isadora.fsba.com (isadora-rt) by fujitsu1.fujitsu.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26429; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:26:54 PDT Received: from camilla.fsba.com by isadora.fsba.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15606; Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:33:29 PDT Date: Mon, 29 Aug 94 20:33:29 PDT From: kumikoi@fsba.com (Kumiko Iguchi) Message-Id: <9408300333.AA15606@isadora.fsba.com> To: chemistry@ccl.net Subject: Free access to MOPAC 93 Network Forum ** FREE access to MOPAC 93 Network Forum for 60 days ** The MOPAC 93 Network Forum provides a mechanism for communicating with other users and with Dr. James J. P. Stewart. This will allow users to keep their program updated and make enhancements. The menu of MOPAC Network Forum consists of: 1.Bulletin Board Services - Default - Allows you to discuss your concerns with other users and receive useful ideas. - Suggestions and advice on how to correct faults and enhance your copy of the program will be provided by Dr. Stewart, where appropriate, user input will be recognized. 2. Maintenance and Enhancement Services - Option - This option provides the enhancement and maintenance module through FTP. Download these modules and you will be able to revise your MOPAC 93 program by replacing the existing modules with the new modules. Currently, only the modules operable on Sun Microsystems workstations are available. - All improvements, bug fixes, etc. made to the top copy of MOPAC 93 will be made available through a read-only file. This will allow users to update their program, on a user-determined schedule. Currently, we set up a FREE 60 days access to the Mopac 93 Bulletin Board Services(Maintenance and Enhancement Services is not included). If you are interested in receiving these services or for further information about MOPAC 93, please contact: Ms. Kumiko Iguchi Fujitsu Systems Business of America 5200 Patrick Henry Drive Santa Clara, CA 95054 Tel: 408-654-2015 Fax: (408) 492-1982 Internet Address: kumiko.iguchi@fujitsu.com mopac.fsba.com (via telnet) IP Address: 133.164.254.10