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Folks,

	Are there folks reading or lurking CCL that have experience
with running binaries compiled under AIX 3.2.5 on machines running
AIX 4.1.1?  Are these folks interested in sharing notes?

Please contact me at this address or at jle@wavefun.com...

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Subject: Summary of responses for QSAR question.


Dear Netters,

When I put a question to the next, I promised that I would post a summary
of the responses that I recieved.  Therefore, as promised, I have included
the list below

I tried to make a point of replying to everyone who responded, thanking them
for the references.  However, in case I missed off anyone, then I would just
like to say thank you now.

Adrian Stevens,
University of Portsmouth.

PS I hope that everyone has a very happy Xmas/Festivity/Holiday/Whatever!

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Q.S.A.R. Responses...

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From:	CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::IT.IRBM::KOEHLER  2-DEC-1994 12:54:16.12
To:	stevensa
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Subj:	QSAR Response

Dear Adrian:

   For QSAR's of enzymes, the following would seem a particularly appropriate
and recent reference:

Nomizu, M.; Iwaki, T.; Yamashita, T.; Inagaki, Y.; Asano, K.; Akamatsu, M.;
Fujita, T. Quantitative structure-activity relationship (QSAR) study of
elastase substrates and inhibitors.  Int. J. Pept. Protein. Res.   1993, 42,
216-226. 

Abstract:  One hundred Suc-X-Y-Ala-pNA peptides: (Suc: succinyl, pNA:
p-nitroanilide, X, Y: Gly, Ala, Val, Leu, Ile, Phe, Pro, alpha-aminobutyric
acid, norvaline, norleucine) were synthesized and their reaction constants with
porcine pancreatic elastase (Km, kcat and kcat/Km) were determined. These
reaction constants were quantitatively analyzed using the Free-Wilson/Fujita-
Ban method. The contribution of amino acid side chains to the reaction
constants Km, kcat and kcat/Km, expressed logarithmically, was found to be
additive. On the other hand, 19 elastase inhibitors of the general formula
CF3CO-X-Y-Ala-pNA (X,Y: ten amino acids) were synthesized, and their inhibition
constants were compared with the Michaelis constant for the corresponding
substrates and analyzed using free-energy-related substituent constants. In the
analysis of amino acid side chains in the Y position, the Ki value of the
inhibitor was generally correlated to the Km value of the substrate, which
corresponded to the inhibitor, thus confirming the validity of the equation.
log(1/Ki) = 1.271 log(1/Km) + 4.831 This study may serve as a prototypical
approach to unraveling structure-activity relationships of peptide substrates
and inhibitors of medicinal or agricultural importance. 

   If you are interested in 3D-QSAR and enzymes, check the following
references out:

(1) DePriest, S. A.; Mayer, D.; Naylor, C. B.; Marshall, G. R. 3D-QSAR of    
    angiotensin-converting enzyme and thermolysin inhibitors:  a comparison of
    CoMFA models based on deduced and experimentally determined active site
    geometries. J. Am. Chem. Soc.   1993, 115, 5372-84. 
(2) Motoc, I.; Sit, S. Y.; Harte, W. E.; Balasubramanian, N.; Wright, J. J.
    3-Hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl-Coenzyme A Reductase: Molecular Modeling,
    Three-Dimensional structure-activity relationships, inhibitor design.  QSAR
    1991, 10, 30.
(3) Sit, S. Y.; Parker, R. A.; Motoc, I.; Han, W.; Balasubramanian, N.; Catt, J.
    D.; Brown, P. J.; Harte, W. E.; Thompson, M. D.; Wright, J. J. Synthesis,  
    biological profile, and quantitative structure-activity relationship of a
    series of novel 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A reductase inhibitors.
    J. Med. Chem.   1990, 33, 2982-99. 
(4) Waller, C. L.; McKinney, J. D. Comparative molecular field analysis of
    polyhalogenated dibenzo-p-dioxins, dibenzofurans, and biphenyls.  J. Med.
    Chem. 1992, 35, 3660-6. 
(5) Waller, C. L.; Marshall, G. R. Three-dimensional quantitative
    structure-activity relationship of angiotensin-converting enzyme and
    thermolysin inhibitors.  II.  A Comparison of CoMFA models incorporating
    molecular orbital fields and desolvation free energies based on
    active-analog and complementry-receptor-field alignment rules.  J. Med.
    Chem. 1993, 36, 2390-2403. 
(6) Waller, C. L.; Oprea, T. I.; Giolitti, A.; Marshall, G. R. Three-dimensional
    QSAR of human immunodeficiency virus (I) protease inhibitors.  1.  A CoMFA
    study employing experimentally-determined alignment rules.  J. Med. Chem.  
    1993, 36, 4152-4160. 

    Ciao,

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From:	CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::GOV.EPA.HERL.THOR::WALLER  2-DEC-1994 13:20:23.68
To:	STEVENSA
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Subj:	Re: CCL:Introductory Q.S.A.R. References.?

As a graduate student I found Yvonne Martin's Quantitative Drug 
Design (Marcel Dekker, New York) an extremely useful introductory
text.

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From:	CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::EDU.CWRU.CHEM.CWGK::FERCU  2-DEC-1994 13:30:06.08
To:	STEVENSA
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Subj:	QSAR Response

Dear Adrian,

The most recent book I know of is "QSAR: Hansch analysis and related
approaches" by Hugo Kubinyi (VCH: Weinheim, 1993, 240p). It has a good review
on the most used QSAR parameters. Besides the well known Hansch analysis, other 
models are described, such as Free Wilson, pattern recognition techniques, 
3D QSAR models (CoMFA). Almost half of the book is dedicated to applications.
Over 1000 references.
A reduced version of this book can be found in the new edition of "Burger's
Medicinal Chemistry and Drug Discovery" (Wolff, M. E., Ed., Wiley: New York, 
Vol.1, 5th ed., 1994).

Regards,
Dan Fercu

Dan Fercu
Computational Chemist
Department of Chemistry
Case Western Reserve University
fercu@cwgk.chem.cwru.edu

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From:	CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::COM.ABBOTT.RANDB::CMDA::MARTIN  2-DEC-1994 14:37:14.81
To:	STEVENSA
CC:	
Subj:	Re: CCL:Introductory Q.S.A.R. References.?

The classic book, now out of print but maybe available in your library,
is mine: "Quantitative Drug Design", published by Marcel Dekker.

There is also a nice introduction in Comprehensive Medicinal Chemistry,
Vol 4, edited by Hansch, Sammes, & Taylor. Pergamon.

Methods in Enzymology vol 203 edited by Langone also has several 
interesting chapters.

Finally, there is the interesting book edited by Kubinyi "3D QSAR
in Drug Design". ESCOM, 1994.

Yvonne Martin
Abbott Laboratories

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From:	CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::UK.CO.OXMOL::SCOFFIN  5-DEC-1994 08:32:30.54
To:	STEVENSA
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Subj:	QSAR Response...

Adrian,

There are a number of good introductory level texts, depending on
what you are looking for; i.e. Hansch Analysis or 3D-QSAR.  For the latter
I would try '3D QSAR in Drug Design'; H.Kubinyi, ESCOM, 1994.

There are good books by Yvonne Martin, Reiner Franke, Han van de Waterbeemd
and Mike Tute on various aspects of 2D and 3D QSAR, I can find more
specific references if that will help...

Good luck in your search,

Rob Scoffin
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From:	CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::ORG.ACS::BEP96  5-DEC-1994 14:25:59.89
To:	stevensa
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Subj:	QSAR Response

Your message was forwarded to me by Nan Butterworth.  The following book will
be available later this month.  Please note that volume I is designed to
introduce the reader to QSAR.  If you have any specific questions please do
not hestitate to email me at bep96@acs.org.  

Barbara Pralle
Acquisitions Editor

TWO VOLUME SET

"BOOK TITLE (Vol. 1):"	Exploring QSAR
"SUBTITLE:"		Fundamentals and Applications in Chemistry and Biology

AUTHORS(S):		Corwin Hansch and Albert Leo

"BOOK TITLE (Vol. 2):"	Exploring QSAR
"SUBTITLE:"		Hydrophobic, Electronic, and Steric Constants

AUTHORS(S):		Corwin Hansch, Albert Leo, David Hoekman

ISBN: 0-8412-2993-7
PRICE: $99.95
PUBLICATION DATE: December 1994

SIZE: 7 X 10 inches (Vol. 1) 8 1/2 X 11 inces (Vol. 2)
BINDING: Clothbound (Vol. 1) Clothbound (Vol. 2) 
ESTIMATED PAGES: 900 

AUDIENCE/LEVEL:
Medicinal chemists, agrochemical chemists, toxicologists, environmental
scientists, computational chemists, pharmaceutical scientists, scientists
involved in computer-assisted drug discovery, bioorganic chemists, pesticide
chemists and formulators, analytical chemists working with partition
coefficient measurements.  

HIGHLIGHTS:

Investigates the interaction of organic compounds with various forms of life
including macromolecules, enzymes, organelles, etc.

Introduces the Hammett equation and its applications.

Discusses the design of bioactive compounds.

Includes extensive tables of approximately 17,000 partition coefficients from
octanol/water as well as a comprehensive listing of electronic and steric
parameters used in the design and study of bioactive organic compounds.  

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Hi netters!!

I am trying to compile a program using the NDP FORTRAN 77 compiler for a 
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Dear Netters,

     Does anyone out there know of an FTP repository for a chemical apparatus
symbol programme with a name of ChemArt (or something like that)?  If so,
please send complete details.  I have tried running an "archie" search for
it, but since the past two weeks the archie server I have been using is not
responding.

     Thanks to all responders in advance.


Sincerely,

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Dear netters,

Does anybody have references to experimental work on stability of
tatrahedral intermediates?

Thanks to all in advance.

Anwar Rayan
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I forgot (dim--wit me) to credit the C&EN News for the info about
this WWW page that is helping us understand this insiduous
contaminant :-J.
Have fun with this info and I assure you some non-chemists will
fall for it without even giving it an ounce of thought (some of
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The first fraft ran from May - October and is now expired. It resulted in
a number of implementations, and much discussion. To allow others to
contribute, we have now prepared a 2nd draft, mounted as
http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/chemime2.html and via anonymous ftp on
argon.ch.ic.ac.uk in directory pub as chemime2.txt
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Subject: summary on superdelocalization calc's


Greetings Netters,
As promised, a summary of responses received on calculating 
superdelocalizabilities follows. I have been corresponding most
with Henk Verhaar, (see below) about his program that does this from
MOPAC output. As you will see from the responses, several people 
have worked in this area and have written programs to do the calculations.
Many thanks to all who responded...

Perhaps some of you who have responded to this request might consider
posting your programs on the CCL server. 

     BTW - Jacques Bompart,if you are reading this, my email to you 
     is returned with the message:

     Bad address -- <bompart@cbs.univ-montp2.fr>
     Error -- Nameserver error: Unknown host

     Would you contact me again please?

I want to mention a couple of references here on superdelocalizability.  
My intent was to calculate something similar to what is described 
by Fukui et. al.

 - K. Fukui, T. Yonezawa, C. Nagata, & Shingu, J. Chem. Phys., vol.22, 
    (1954), 1433.

 - "Quantum Pharmacology", 2nd ed., by W. G. Richards, Butterworths & Co., 
    London, 1983, pp 153-154.    

 - "Theoretical Drug Design Methods", by R. Franke, Elsevier, NY, pp 115-117.

 - G. Schuurmann, Env. Tox. and Chem., vol. 9, (1990), pp 417-428.

Enough said, below are the details...The original question was:

>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 8:17:06 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Gregory L. Durst - DowElanco R&D" <GDURST@ELINET1.DOWELANCO.COM>
>Subject: CCL:Superdelocalizability calcs?
>
>Hello Netters,
>
>I am interested in calculating superdelocalizability indexes
>from MOPAC output. (I have an application where these may
>be useful in understanding a QSAR analysis). I was wondering if 
>anyone out there has written a unix shell script or SPL script to 
>do this. It appears this will be a *tedious* job otherwise. Searching 
>the CCL archives turned up 2 other requests for similar calc's this 
>past year, but no resopnses were recorded. Surely someone out there has 
>looked at this before. Thanks in advance for any help, and I'll 
>post a summary if there is interest.
>
>Regards,
>Greg
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From: ecoer@sb615.rivm.nl

Dear Greg,

Since I am working on a PC most of the time
I cannot supply you with a ready to go unix
shell script, but I do have a small program
written in pascal for extracting all the
eigenvectors and eigenvalues from mopac
output and subsequently calculating
superdelocalizabilities. If you think you
can use it mail me, and i will send you the
code. Otherwise keep me informed or
summarize to the list, because a unix shell
script would come in handy to me too!

Best regards,
Emiel  -   ecoer@rivm.nl

Emiel Rorije
Lab for Ecotoxicity
Nat.Inst. for Public Health and
Environmental Protection
Bilthoven, The Netherlands.
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From: Jacques Bompart <bompart@livarot>

hello greg,

	I received your interest for calculation delocalizability from mopac 
outputs, we had compute this type of indexes by fortran. We generated 
autocorrelation vectors weighted by these indexes.
	If you are interested by this mode of calculation, send me a mail.
	
	Regards,
	bompart@cbs.univ-montp2.fr      
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From: henk@qsar.ritox.dgk.ruu.nl

FYI, I have a small C program that does just that. It compiles OK on Macintosh
(Think C), Vax/VMS (VaxC) and Unix (RS6000/IBM C compiler); it looks as if
there are some problems on DOS... If you're interested, just let me know!

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From: "CBAS25 ::P_BLADON ::CBAS25" <cbas25@vms.strath.ac.uk>

Dear Gregory L. Durst
I may have a possible solution for your request.  I have written an
extension suite of routines for MOPAC, which will calculate various
derived parameters including electrophilic, nucleophilic, and radical

superdelocalisabilities, atom self polarisabilities, and electrophilic
and nucleophilic frontier electron densities (what a mouthful).  It is
available from QCPE as part of the INTERCHEM package. The package
includes a modified version of MOPAC 6.0.  (reference QCPE Bulletin
1994, 14, number 3 p. 47).  If you are a very poor organisation (?)
I could possibly let you have the modifications to MOPAC by themselves.

Yours sincerely
Peter Bladon
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From:   SMTP%"aholder@CCTR.UMKC.EDU"

Greg,

  It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to code up in AMPAC.
All of the numbers are already there, it just requires some summing.
Is this type of analysis usually done on semiempirical wavefunctions
or just ab initio?  Do you have any actual values from other places we
could compare to as we code it?

  I think I'll go ahead and get the reference and give it a try.

  Let me know.

  Andy

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From: Andy Holder <aholder@CCTR.UMKC.EDU>

Greg,

  I now have all of the relevant references.  I think we'll go ahead and 
try to put this in AMPAC.  Give me a week or so and I'll get back to you 
on the results.  Do you have two or three molecules you want us to try 
it out on?

Andy

ps  This is the sort of service Semichem can provide it users on a 
    routine basis.

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From: Jiri Czernek <czernek@chemi.muni.cz>

   Dear Mr. Durst ,

I guess you should contact ecoer@rivm.nl.

Good luck !

                                         Cordially ,

                                             czernek@chemi.muni.cz
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