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We are developing intrinsic viscosity data from an old system to justify future 
capitol investment in new equipment. The major drawback currently is reducing 
the pump pulsation from the data stream. A fft treatment would seem proper, and 
although our programmer is able to transform the data stream to a fft transform 
and back, we lack the knowledge of how to implement a filter. Any help would be 
appreciated.

NKD


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Dear colleagues!

Did any one of you try to calculate microscopic dissociation constants by any kind of 
computational chemistry method? Did you have any success? Are there hints in the 
literature? Any kind of advice will be useful.

I will summarise the result to the mailing list.

Thanks in advance

Kay Kreidler

Institut fuer Anorganische Chemie und Strukturchemie I
Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
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********************************************************************************

				6th CHIANTI WORKSHOP ON
				MAGNETIC RESONANCE:
				NUCLEAR AND ELECTRON RELAXATION

********************************************************************************

	SAN MINIATO (PISA), ITALY, 	MAY 27 - JUNE 2, 1995

CHAIRPERSONS:	I. BERTINI (Univ. Florence), Conference Chairman
		K. MOEBIUS (Free Univ. Berlin), Program Chairman

ORGANIZERS:	R. BASOSI (Univ. Siena), C. LUCHINAT (Univ. Bologna),
		C.A. VERACINI (Univ. Pisa)

	The present Workshop, in the spirit of the series of the Chianti
Workshops, aims at bringing together scientists involved in theoretical and
experimental aspects of nuclear and electron spin relaxation to study the
structure and dynamics of molecules.

The main topics to be discussed by NMR and EPR scientists will deal with:
structure determination of biomolecules, spin polarization phenomena and 
processes, relaxation in paramagnetic systems, quasi-ordered phases,
spin imaging, new methodologies.

	The program will consist of invited lectures and poster presentations.
At the moment the following scientists have accepted an invitation to present
a lecture:
L. Banci (Florence), G. Bodenhausen (Tallahassee), R.D. Britt (Davis),
R. Bruschweiler (Zurich), M. Brustolon (Padova), D.A. Case (La Jolla),
V. Chizhik (St. Petersburg), K.P. Dinse (Darmstadt), R.Y. Dong (Brandon),
J.W. Emsley (Southampton), C. Forte (Pisa), J.H. Freed (Ithaca),
E. Gaggelli (Siena), G. Giacometti (Padova), D. Goldfarb (Rehovot),
C. Griesinger (Frankfurt/M.), R.G. Griffin (Cambridge, MA),
E.J.J. Groenen (Leiden), B. Halle (Lund), A.J. Hoff (Leiden),
B.M. Hoffman (Evanston), P. Hore (Oxford), W.L. Hubbell (Los Angeles),
M. Huber (Berlin), J. Huttermann (Homburg), J.S. Hyde (Milwaukee),
R. Ishima (Tsukuba), T.L. James (San Francisco), G. Kothe (Freiburg),
J. Kowalewski (Stockholm), Ya.S. Lebedev (Moscow), H. Levanon (Jerusalem),
W. Lubitz (Berlin), G.R. Luckhurst (Southampton), Z. Luz (Rehovot),
M.W. Makinen (Chicago), K.A. McLauchlan (Oxford), A.E. Merbach (Lausanne),
G. Navon (Tel Aviv), A. Pines (Berkeley), T.F. Prisner (Berlin),
K.M. Salikhov (Kazan), S. Schlick (Detroit), R. Sharp (Ann Arbor),
H.W. Spiess (Mainz), D. Stehlik (Berlin), U.E. Steiner (Konstanz),
S. Styring (Stockholm), W.H. Thomann (Annandale), R.R. Vold (San Diego),
L. Weiner (Rehovot), L. Werbelow (Marseille), P.O. Westlund (Umea).

	Participants intending to present posters on work related to the topics
of the Workshop are asked to submit an abstract (max. 1 page A4 format typed
single-spaced) of the proposed communication not later than April 15, 1995.
Since the total number of participants is limited, acceptance will be on a
"first come first served" basis.

	There is a registration fee of 250,000 Italian Lira for active
participants and 120,000 Italian Lira for accompanying persons. The cost of
the accommodation, based on sharing a twin-bedded room, plus all meals
(including Chianti wine!) will be 700,000 Italian Lira per person.

	For further information, please contact:
Prof. Riccardo Basosi, Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Siena,
Pian dei Mantellini, 44, 53100 Siena, Italy,TEL. 39/577 298040,FAX 39/577 280405	

Prof. Claudio Luchinat,c/o Dept. of Chemistry,Univ. of Florence		
Via G.Capponi, 7, 50121 Florence, Italy, TEL. 39/55 2757563, FAX 39/55 2757555	

Prof. Carlo A.Veracini, Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Pisa
Via Risorgimento, 35, 56100 Pisa, Italy, TEL. 39/50 918266, FAX 39/50 918260

	or the Program Chairman:
Prof. Klaus Moebius, Dept. of Physics, Free Univ. of Berlin, Arnimallee 14
D-14195 Berlin, Germany, TEL. 49/30 8382770, FAX 49/30 8386046


#############################################################################

For the REGISTRATION FORM please contact

Giacomo Parigi 
giacomo@risc1.lrm.fi.cnr.it

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From shubin@email.unc.edu  Tue Feb 28 10:48:36 1995
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Dear all CCLers:

Can one obtain the density matrix (1st-order) and the pair function 
(giving a reference point) from Gaussian 92 output directly? I will give 
a summary here if there is any response.

Shubin
.............................................................................
Shubin Liu

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Last week I asked if anyone could tell me where to find Multi.  The current
version can be found at ftp://kamakazi.niehs.nih.gov/pub/MULTI/MULTI-3.1   .
Thanks to everyone that helped.

Andy


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I am posting the results of my query of PhD programs in 
computational chemistry for all those who requested  this information.
Thanks to all those who replied and sorry for the delay in compiling 
this data:

========================================================
Quantum Theory Project,
University of Florida at Gainesville.
The Quantum Theory Project is the home of ZINDO, ACESII, AMPAC,
FLIMMSY, etc. and such luminaries as Michael Zerner, Rod Bartlett,
and Nigel Richards, etc.

Quantum Theory Project,
Williamson Hall,
University of Florida,
Gainesville FL 32611

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is a comp. chem. program here at UC Berkeley.
And I believe that Stanford, Cornell, Madison WI,
Caltech, and UCLA  also have good programs.

Clayton Springer
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Consider Rutgers University in New Jersey.  They have several 
professors there working on various aspects of theoretical 
chemistry.  You may also want to look at the University of Georgia.
						Jeff Nauss
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The Univ. of Houston has the chemical physics program joint by
physics and engineering departments. The professors in 
computatinal area are: B.M. Pettitt, D.J. Kouri, T.A. Albright, 
etc..
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is a program at Bryn Mawr College (near Philadelphia in 
Pennsylvania).
Michelle M. Francl
Associate Professor of Chemistry
Bryn Mawr College
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010
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        The ACS sells a CD-ROM called Directory of Graduate Research. 
 This
is a chemical science directory of all colleges and universities 
offering
chemistry curriculums.  I can send you a brochure on it if you like?  
Just
met me know.  
                                                        Nan Butterworth
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I received a forwarded message from Dr. Jim Gano of our department 
that you
were interested in graduate studies in computational chemistry.  Dr. 
Hua Guo
of our department is a nationally recognized computational physical 
chemist.
If you would like information on his research, our graduate program in 
     
chemistry, please send me your address and I will have the 
information mailed
to you.
Jon Kirchhoff
Chairman, Graduate Admissions Committee
The University of Toledo
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      I don't know if there is a degree in comp. chem. anywhere, but 
William
Jorgensen at Yale is well known in the field.  In practice, you get your
degree in either Physical chemistry or organic chemistry (or perhaps 
a more
bio related field) depending on your major interests.  This is true with
most people in the field.  (I got my degree from Bill).
      In addition, there is Peter Kollman at USCF pharmacy school, Ken 
Houk
at UCLA, Andy McCammon at UCSD, all having somewhat different 
focuses within
the field of computational chemistry.
      There are quite a few more, but those are most of the big names 
(Martin
Karplus at Harvard) as a starting point.
      Take care,
          Dan
========================================================
Cheers!
-ANT


______________________________________________________________________

Anthony Lemus                       (813) 974-3427
-Systems Analyst
University of South Florida         Anthony@admis.med.usf.edu
College of Medicine
______________________________________________________________________

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For those interested in parallel and scalable molecular dynamics simulation
of biological macromolecules: Version 0.9 of the program PMD has been
made available. This is an experimental program that uses the Greengard/
Rokhlin fast multipole algorithm (FMA) in conjunction with a constant
force multiple timestep method to permit the efficient simulation of large
biological macromolecules without cutting off the long range forces. For
more details, see "http:/tincan.bioc.columbia.edu/pmd" or the README
file from the distribution reproduced below.

---
Andreas Windemuth

+--------------------------------------------------------------------
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This is an experimental version of PMD,
Version 0.9, release Feb 28, 1995, all rights reserved.

PMD is a scalable, parallel program for the simulation of the
dynamics of biological macromolecules. PMD utilizes the
Greengard/Rokhlin Fast Multipole Algorithm to allow the
simulation of very large biological macromolecular systems
without sacrificing the important long-range Coulomb
interactions.  


The force field implemented by PMD is compatible to programs
such as CHARMM, X-PLOR, GROMOS, Discover and others. Residue
topology and parameter files suitable for X-PLOR can be used
with PMD. Particularly, PMD can fully implement the CHARMM19
CHARMM22 force fields. PMD is also intrinsically and
transparently parallel and suitable for running on a wide
variety of parallel architectures, both shared memory and
message passing.  


The most salient features of PMD are:

- Use of the Fast Multipole Algorithm allows for the calculation of the
  full long range electrostatic interactions in linear (of order N) time.

- The Distance Class Algorithm reduces the calculation time
  further to make full-range calculations faster than conventional
  cutoff methods.

- PMD is designed to be completely scalable, i.e. arbitrarily large systems
  (millions of atoms) can be simulated as long as enough processing nodes
  are available. Memory use is minimal, compared to other programs.

- PMD runs without changes on a large number of UNIX workstations and
  can easily be adapted to others. Parallel implementations exist for
  the CM-5, the Intel Paragon, the Cray T3D and workstation networks.

- Parallel instructions are limited to a small set of commands that are
  easily implemented in any machine specific or portable (TCGMSG, PVM,
  Linda) parallel processing interface.

PMD is work in progress. Expect plenty of changes of all
kinds in future versions. This program is made available to
encourage researchers to add  features they need and in the
hope that some of these improvements find their way back into
future versions. A mailing list has been established to foster
discussion among users and contributors. Please direct
inquiries to join the mailing list to
"pmd-request@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu".

The source code is being made available under the condition
that any additions, improvements or changes will be sent to
the author (windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu) for inclusion
into the distribution. No restrictions different from those on
PMD itself may be put on such contributions. PMD or parts of
it may not be used or distributed for non-disclosed corporate
research or commercially without prior consent of the author.   


If either the program or ideas from its code are used in a
publication, it is asked that the following references be cited:

J.A. Board Jr., J.W. Causey, J.F. Leathrum Jr., A. Windemuth, and K. Schulten.
Accelerated molecular dynamics simulation with the parallel fast multipole algorithm.
Chem. Phys. Lett. 198:89--94, 1992.

A. Windemuth and K. Schulten.
Molecular dynamics on the Connection Machine.
Molecular Simulation, 5:353--361, 1991.

A. Windemuth.
Advanced Algorithms for Molecular Dynamics Simulation: The Program PMD.
in "Parallel Computing in Computational Chemistry"
(Timothy G. Mattson, ed.), ACS Books, 1995, in press.


Installation:
    cd
    zcat pmd.tar.Z | tar xvf -

Demo run:
    cd pmd/demo
    make SYS=<machine>  (one of next hpux dec iris aix sun paragon)

Parallel demo run:
    [install TCGMSG and customize bin/par.<machine>]
    cd demo
    make SYS=<machine> PSYS=tcgmsg

This will start a simulation of Pancreatic Trypsin Inhibitor
(PTI), starting from the original PDB file, adding hydrogens,
equilibrating with harmonic constraints and a minimizing. Look
at "demo/makefile" and "src/make.sim" to see how the run is
controlled and how you might modify it to run your own
molecules. First, try changing the line "SYS=next" to reflect
the machine you are actually using. Then, try "make MOL=mb" to
run the solvated myoglobin setup that is frequently used as a
benchmark for CHARMM. Finally, try "make mutant" to generate
a Ile 3 -> Tyr mutant of T4 phage lysozyme (2lzm). Some of these
simulation will take quite some time if not interrupted. It is 

suggested to run them in the background using the ampersand ("&")
character, i.e. "make mutant &". The link "demo/log" will always
point to the newest simulation log. Try "tail -f log" to check on
the simulation progress.

Some other sample molecules are available in "demo". Their
topology is described in files "*.str", their atom coordinates
in files "*.pdb". It is quite straightforward to make your own
"*.str" files, once you study the sample files and "src/make.sim".

If you wish to run PMD in parallel, make sure that you have
TCGMSG or PVM installed and that there is a directory or link
"tcgmsg" or "pvm" in your home directory pointing to your
system's TCGMSG or PVM root directory. Edit "makefile" and
change the line "PSYS=serial" to one of the supported parallel
interfaces (tcgmsg, pvm, pvm-t3d). You also will have to
edit a startup script that sets up processes on the network.
The script has the name "par-$(SYS)-$(PSYS)" and it is located
in "bin". Some examples are provided, but you will almost
certainly have to adapt one of them to your own environment.
TCGMSG can be obtained from "ftp.tcg.anl.gov". See the file
"README.TCGMSG" for more information. Information on PVM can
be obtained at "http://www.epm.ornl.gov/pvm/pvm_home.html" on
the World-Wide Web. For information on the Cray T3D refer to
"http://pscinfo.psc.edu/machines/cray/t3d/t3d.html".


Documentation:
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    and the World Wide Web pages.

Main features:
    Fast multipole algorithm
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	Full long range interactions with no cut-off
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Main limitations:
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    No vectorization
    Not enough features

Forthcoming: (no guarantees, of course :-) )
    Advanced solvent treatment
	Generalized Born potential
	Hydrophobic forces and continuum electrostatics with forces
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	Improved scalable versions
	Periodic boundary conditions
    Other features
	Containment fields for closed boundary
	Pretty pictures (ray-tracing and movies)

Adapting PMD to other parallel systems:

All machine-specific parallel communication commands have
been isolated into one file, called the adaptor. The adaptors
in the current release are "tcgmsg.c": for the TCGMSG public
domain parallel programming Interface, "pvm.c": for the PVM
public domain parallel programming Interface, "cm5.c": for
the Connection Machine 5 with CMMD-3.0, "pvm-t3d.c" for the
restricted set of PVM used on the Cray T3D, and "serial.c": for
non-parallel workstation implementations. With TCGMSG or PVM
PMD can be run on a wide variety of platforms, such as workstation
networks, the Intel Paragon and the Convex Exemplar. Other
adaptors are expected to become available as work progresses.

Changes from 0.8:

- Much improved makefiles and compilation
- Simplified parallel execution
- Parallel output is now much faster and should always work
- new trajectory format, with PDB and DCD conversion utility
- PVM and the Cray T3D are now supported
- Numerous bugs corrected.
- Everything else also improved.

Have fun!

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Dear all computational chemists,

Does anyone know of a method for modeling transition metal complexes.  For
example, Fe(0) and carbon tetrachloride?  I believe at this moment that
most canned programs do not have this capability.  I think that "Cerius"
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Here's a summary of the articles posted on the CCL and
I received personally. I thank all who replied to my question.
I chopped off signatures severely to save space.
I hope you don't mind.

--- original posting ---
Is there a simple way of testing if two given conformational isomers
are equivalent?
E.g., how can you know the gauche (+) conformer of n-butane is
equivalent to the gauche (-) conformer?
My idea is
1) superimpose the two conformers.
2) if they are not superimposed, superimpose the one conformer
   and the mirror image of the other.

__________________________________________________________________________
>From jordi@stark.udg.es  Tue Feb 21 07:26:38 1995

	There is a simple way of testing if two conformers are
equivalent. You can know it just calculating the corresponding
molecular self-similarity measures (MSM). Two equivalent conformers
will have the same electronic density distribution, thus, their MSM
value will be the same. 
	Since calculation of the exact MSM value is not computationally
feasible for large molecules, here you have some recent references
on several approximations to evaluate the MSM for large systems:
	* J.Comp.Chem. 1994, 15, 1113-1120
	* J.Am.Chem.Soc. 1994, 116, 5909-5915
	* J.Chem.Inf.Comp.Sci. 1994, 34, 1047-1053
	* Scientia gerundensis 1995, 21, xxx (in press)

__________________________________________________________________________
>From MARTIN@cmda.abbott.com  Tue Feb 21 09:07:35 1995

An easier way is to calculate the interatomic distances since that is
invariant to reflection.  We consider 0.3A tolerance to be the cut-off
if two conformers are different.

__________________________________________________________________________
>From Karl.F.Moschner@urlus.sprint.com  Tue Feb 21 10:37:02 1995

Sounds about right to me, but, if your program doesn't do so already, you 
should first provide a "standard" orientation such as placing the origin at 
the center of mass and orienting the molecule along the principal moment axes 
or dipoles, if you include charges.  But, depending on your code, you may 
still have to consider reversed orientation, i.e., check if x1(a) = x1(b) or 
x1(a) = -x1(b), if the latter, reverse the orientation, ditto for y and z.

Besides exact superposition, quick screens are the total energy, dipole (if 
you include charges), and moments.  For larger molecules, end-to-end or 
selected interatomic distances afford quick checks.  And, if you're checking a 
series of molecules, molecular weight or elemental composition are effective 
screens.

It's suprising that some/many molecular mechanics packages do not 
support/generate "standard" orientations since it would be helpful not only 
for your problem but also as a start for CoMFA alignments.  However, you could 
easily write your own starting from MOPAC or GAMESS subroutines, if you have 
them.  There may also be a program/subroutine available from QCPE which you 
could modify.  A few years ago I had modified the GAMESS subroutine for 
determining the principal moments to generate standard orienetations for 
Tripos "*.mol" files. It was very fast, requiring only a several seconds to 
reorient lysozyme on an SGI 4D/35.  Unfortunately I no longer have the code 
and would be prohibited from redistributing it even if I did.  My original 
interest was to subsequently compute the 3 principal cross-sectional areas, 
and/or solvent cross-sectioanl areas, to try to relate them to diffusivities 
but I didn't get that far.

__________________________________________________________________________
>From polowin@hyper.hyper.com  Tue Feb 21 09:17:43 1995

Depends on what you mean by "equivalent", and how you're doing the
superimposition.  In molecular modelling, for example, even structures
with the "same" conformation can differ significantly as a result of a
slight shift in a torsional angle near the middle of a large system.
If you were checking for "equivalence" by something like RMS deviation
of atomic positions, you'd take them to be completely different.  If
you were checking bond angles and torsional angles, they'd probably
appear to be pretty similar.

__________________________________________________________________________
>From hendrick@agouron.com  Tue Feb 21 12:26:39 1995

Hi
The way this was done in MacroModel was to identify equilavent atoms and then
check for identical conformers by doing rms superimposition with the
equilivalent atoms. For example in your n-butane case (C1-C2-C3-C4), if you
made atom one equivalent to atom four, and atom two equivalent to atom three
and then do the rms superpositions, you would find the redundant conformers.
Tom Hendrickson  

__________________________________________________________________________
From: lnl@novo.dk (Leif Norskov)

  > Is there a simple way of testing if two given conformational isomers
  > are equivalent?
  > E.g., how can you know the gauche (+) conformer of n-butane is
  > equivalent to the gauche (-) conformer?
  > My idea is [ to superimpose the conformers ]...


If speed is a problem (and it could well be - consider for example
the matching of the protons in butane) then it might be advantageous
to first compare the moments of inertia, which of course are invariant
to atom labelling and rotation/translation, before proceeding
with superpositioning.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: "E. Lewars" <elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>

Dongchul Lim asked how one can tell if two conformers are the same.  This is
a special case of how to tell if two isomers are really the same species.
It seems to me a simple approach is (after looking to see that they are
not obviously different) to have your program (MOPAC, GAUSSIAN etc) 
calculate the total internuclear repulsions.  Two species that look the same
and have the same internuclear repulsions (to 6 or more decimals--Hartrees)
are, I would think, extremely unlikely not to be the same.  Many comp.
chem programs calculate internucl. repulsions; if a check job wn't give
that number, then ask for a single-point calc. using a fast method like 
a semiempirical routine.  The actual internuclear repulsin calc. is 
trivial.
Errol Lewars

__________________________________________________________________________
From: peon@medchem.dfh.dk (Per-Ola Norrby)

        Your proposal is of course the only final test, but there are some
ways to do a quick screening to avoid having to test a lot of conformations
by superimposition.  If your structures are output from some calculation,
several commonly calculated criteria have to be equal for the two
conformers.  Two simple ones are calculated energy (only if you have fair
convergence) and moment of inertia (very sensitive to conformational
changes).  You only need to superimpose structures that differ "very
little" in these two test.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: <san@mbu.iisc.ernet.in> (sandeep kumar)
           I think one way to test the conformational equivalence esp.
for small structures like n-butane is to calculate or measure the energies
of the two isomers.  For example, in case of n-butane both g+ and g- have
almost equal energies i.e. both of them are almost equally stable while
trans isomer has lower energy than any of the two and is much more stable
than any of the two.
                  I restrict myself to recomend its usage with small organic
molecules with simple geometries only.
  for further disscussion on the matter please refer to organic chemistry
text book by Morrison and Boyd.
                         yours' cordially
                          sandeep kumar
                       san@mbu.iisc.ernet.in

   P.S. I shall be grateful to you if you summarize what you find.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: Garcia Edgardo <garciae@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>


About the conf. isomers question of Dongchul Lim, my opinion
is that first we should ask if we want to compare IDENTICAL or
EQUIVALENT isomers (concerning energy for example).
In the first case a simple superpossition will probably work.
In the second we can make a non-bonding energy calculation
and compare the energies or compare the distance matrix of the structures
(or some kind of invariant of them) within some allowed range of values.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: polowin@hyper.hyper.com (Joel Polowin)
> From: "E. Lewars" <elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
> Subject: CCL:TELLING IF TWO CONFORMERS ARE IDENTICAL
> 
> Dongchul Lim asked how one can tell if two conformers are the same.  This is
> a special case of how to tell if two isomers are really the same species.
> It seems to me a simple approach is (after looking to see that they are
> not obviously different) to have your program (MOPAC, GAUSSIAN etc) 
> calculate the total internuclear repulsions.  Two species that look the same
> and have the same internuclear repulsions (to 6 or more decimals--Hartrees)
> are, I would think, extremely unlikely not to be the same.  Many comp.
> chem programs calculate internucl. repulsions; if a check job wn't give
> that number, then ask for a single-point calc. using a fast method like 
> a semiempirical routine.  The actual internuclear repulsin calc. is 
> trivial.

I don't think the situation is quite so simple -- possibly depending on
what is meant by conformers being "the same".  If I have a large structure
and alter a torsional angle in the middle by a fraction of a degree, it's
probably still "the same structure".  If the structure was energy-
optimized before, it's very likely that trying to optimize it again
won't do much to change it back unless there are other steric effects.
But the atoms at the ends of this large structure will probably move a
*lot* as the result of that tiny bend in the middle, and the internuclear
repulsions are likely to change significantly too.  Maybe only a little,
or maybe some other local minimum would be found, but I don't think the
internuclear repulsions would likely be the same to 6 or more decimals.

I think that the matter depends critically on: What sort of structures
are you trying to compare, and what do you mean by "the same"?

Regards,
Joel
 
__________________________________________________________________________
From: valery-g@dcl.co.il (Dr. Golender Valery)

Dear Lim,
You asked on CCL how one can tell if two conformers are 
the same. I already saw some responses on the net advising to 
solve the problem from the molecular modeling point of view. 
In fact,  there exist a strict mathematical formulation of this 
problem called isomorphism of 3D objects. It is a common 
problem arising in a number of applications including 3D 
database search, ligand design, spanning of conformational 
space and etc. A number of different algorithms and programs 
were proposed to solve this problem. Simple superposition 
suggested in the original posting is not working because of 
molecular symmetry. We recently developed an efficient 
algorithm incorporated into the conformer clustering utility of 
Apex-3D activity prediction system marketed by Biosym. I can 
provide more detailed information if you are interested in 
this functionality.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: Karl.F.Moschner@urlus.sprint.com

Sounds about right to me, but, if your program doesn't do so already, you 
should first provide a "standard" orientation such as placing the origin at 
the center of mass and orienting the molecule along the principal moment axes 
or dipoles, if you include charges.  But, depending on your code, you may 
still have to consider reversed orientation, i.e., check if x1(a) = x1(b) or 
x1(a) = -x1(b), if the latter, reverse the orientation, ditto for y and z.

Besides exact superposition, quick screens are the total energy, dipole (if 
you include charges), and moments.  For larger molecules, end-to-end or 
selected interatomic distances afford quick checks.  And, if you're checking a 
series of molecules, molecular weight or elemental composition are effective 
screens.

It's suprising that some/many molecular mechanics packages do not 
support/generate "standard" orientations since it would be helpful not only 
for your problem but also as a start for CoMFA alignments.  However, you could 
easily write your own starting from MOPAC or GAMESS subroutines, if you have 
them.  There may also be a program/subroutine available from QCPE which you 
could modify.  A few years ago I had modified the GAMESS subroutine for 
determining the principal moments to generate standard orienetations for 
Tripos "*.mol" files. It was very fast, requiring only a several seconds to 
reorient lysozyme on an SGI 4D/35.  Unfortunately I no longer have the code 
and would be prohibited from redistributing it even if I did.  My original 
interest was to subsequently compute the 3 principal cross-sectional areas, 
and/or solvent cross-sectioanl areas, to try to relate them to diffusivities 
but I didn't get that far.

Good luck!

__________________________________________________________________________
From: Mick Kappler <kappler@SECS.UCSC.EDU>

> Is there a simple way of testing if two given conformational isomers
> are equivalent?

Yes. The Stereochemical Extended Morgan Algorithm (SEMA) developed by Wipke
and Dyott provides a stereochemical canonical name.  Comparison of the
structure SEMA names is straight forward.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: marvin@biosym.com (Marvin Waldman)
> Is there a simple way of testing if two given conformational isomers
> are equivalent?

This is, in fact, quite a difficult and subtle question.  The SEMA
algorithm which Mick Sappler proposed can be used to detect if
two CONFIGURATIONAL isomers are equivalent (ie. they have the
same or different stereochemistry).  However, it will not detect
if the same configurational isomers are equivalent or not in
a CONFORMATIONAL sense.  SEMA cannot detect the difference between
the gauche and trans forms of n-butane.  These are CONFORMATIONAL
isomers.

The issue of the equivalence of two conformations is further complicated
by the problem of topological symmetry.  This makes an RMS comparison
of atoms problematic for detecting equivalent conformations.  For
example, if I do an RMS comparison of corresponding atoms between
two conformers in which the hydrogens of a methyl group are rotated
by 120 degrees, I will detect an RMS difference because I am now
comparing the wrong set of atoms.  One needs to compare all combinations
of topologically equivalent atoms in the molecule to see if they
have a (virtually) zero RMS.  If one proposes to do an RMS comparison
of heavy atoms only, then you only need to replace the methyl group
with a t-butyl group, and the problem remains.  If one proposes to
compare only energies (and not RMS), then, of course, the symmetry
will be correctly handled for the energy, and you only need to
worry about the somewhat unlikely case of two different conformers
having (almost?) the same energy.  Since these conformers are likely
to come from some energy optimization procedure, roundoff error
and tolerances used for the minimization implies that one needs to
use some kind of tolerance in comparing energies, which always leads
to the (remote?) possibility that nearly equal energies may not
correspond to the same conformer.  The larger the molecule and the
more conformational flexibility (and therefore conformers) it has,
the more likely that this somewhat theoretical problem may manifest
itself in a real example.  The ideal/correct solution would be to
compare both the energy as well as all combinations of RMS comparisons
of topologically equivalent atoms until the RMS difference found
for a given comparison pair fell below some threshold.  I am not
aware of a software package that has actually implemented such
an algorithm, and would be very interested to hear about one that
does.

So, the bottom line answer to the question, is: No, I don't think
there is a SIMPLE way to do this.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: "E. Lewars" <elewars@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>

When I suggested using the internuclear repulsion E to check if two isomers
are identical, I should have pointed out that enantiomers have precisely
the same energies--internuclear, electronic, etc (in the absence of a 
chiral perturbation; physicists may quibbl, too, that the negation of
parity by the weak nuclear force causes a miniscule difference in enantiomer
E's).  
Joel Polowin of HyperChem pointed out that as a practical matter identity
isn't an all-or-nothing phenomenon: how similar do two species have to be 
for a chemist to call them the same thing?  As several people said, there
are sophisticated algorithms for matching up two molecules and looking
at, e.g., RMS differences in geometric parameters.  I think the widely-
used MM program PCModel can do something like this; one or two other
programs were mentioned.  Joel's idea about a small tweak in one part
of a molecule causing a ratcheting effect that's amplified elsewhere
(cf. allosteric effects in enzymes?) is interesting.
Errol Lewars
===============================
Regarding  internucl rep.--one could calc it for some test cases, alter
these geometries slightly, and see if it might be useful for the problem
at hand.
===============

__________________________________________________________________________
From: "CBAS25 ::P_BLADON ::CBAS25" <cbas25@vms.strath.ac.uk>

Dear Dongchul Lim,

With regard to the conparisons of conformers.

There are several points to consider.

(1) If the problem involves small molecules like butane where the number 
of stable conformers is known, then simply superimposing the "unknown" 
structure on each of the "known" conformers in turn will give an answer.
The rms deviation of atom positions or some other figure of merit will afford
an answer even when an exact match is not achieved.

(2) If the structures are more complex, perhaps involving large membered rings,
then the number of conformers could be large.  But suppose that you have a set
of such structures, and wish to test which of them your "unknown" most 
resembles. You would still get an answer. 
If the "unknown" were a crystal structure and the "knowns" derived 
>from a conformer generating program, you would not expect a good match
necessarily.  What you could do then is to take the pair of best matched 
structures and refine them with your favourite MM or MO package, and see if 
they both decend into the same energy well.  

(3) To do the matching you could use atom to atom matching, or alternatively
use the icosahedral matching algorithm in programs like COMPARISONS or
CORRELATE.  The first of these programs will match an "unknown" against a
series of "unknowns", while the second would allow the correlation of a whole 
series of conformers. The matching of mirror-image forms is taken care of.   
Both programs are available from QCPE as part of the INTERCHEM package.  

__________________________________________________________________________
From: "Victor M. Rosas Garcia" <rosas@irisdav.chem.vt.edu>

Some people have mentioned algorithms for comparison of conformers and evidently
the solution to this problem is far from simple.  The best implementation I
have seen to solve this problem is in the program GMMX, a global minimum search
utility by Serena Software.  As I understand it, the program calculates the RMS
of the conformers by using identical numbering in the atoms of both conformers
and, if necessary, checks for planes of symmetry and for the so-called
numerical isomers.  The idea is that making the atoms distinguishable by
numbering them will introduce artificial conformers that differ only in the
numbering but that are really "the same" conformer e.g. a product of a rotation
or reflection or some other symmetry operation.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: graham@sentex.net (Graham Hurst)
>> Is there a simple way of testing if two given conformational isomers
>> are equivalent?

[good stuff deleted]

>The ideal/correct solution would be to
>compare both the energy as well as all combinations of RMS comparisons
>of topologically equivalent atoms until the RMS difference found
>for a given comparison pair fell below some threshold.  I am not
>aware of a software package that has actually implemented such
>an algorithm, and would be very interested to hear about one that
>does.

The Conformational Search module of the ChemPlus set of extensions
for HyperChem uses energy and RMS compairisons of topologically
equivalent atom pairings.

I've been following this discussion with some interest.  When I
wrote the Conformational Search module of ChemPlus, I implemented
the following tests to compare for equivalent conformations that
might result from the search.  The comparisons available are (in
the order that the program can optionally execute them) are:

1. Changed chirality (R or S) of chiral centers with 4 bonded
   neighbours. (Chiral centers are determined by HyperChem.)

2. Energy (from HyperChem) within a user adjustable range.

3. Varied torsions within a user adjustable range.  This test is
   turned off by default, since it doesn't handle topologically
   equivalent dihedral angles.

4. R.M.S. deviation for a least-squares overlay of atoms.  As Marvin
   Waldman pointed out, one needs to compare with all topologically
   equivalent permutations of atom order and this option (discussed
   further below) is available in ChemPlus.  A subset of atoms can
   also be specified for the comparision.

I initially included an option for comparison of inertial moments
(suggested earlier by Leif Norskov <lnl@novo.dk>) but I abandoned it
because it seemed too sensitive a measure, with suitable tolerances
varying widely with the number of atoms.

If the option to use equivalent atoms in the RMS comparison is
turned on, the program generates all equivalent atom order
permutations.  The algorithm I used for this is basically brute
force, O(N!) at worst, but being able to compare element type
and number of bonds for each topological "node" allows considerable
trimming of the paths.  Further trimming results from only considering
a subset of atoms (eg. no hydrogens or only backbone atoms) so
that permutations of ignored atoms are unnecessary (assuming
equivalent sets are either all included or all excluded).

>So, the bottom line answer to the question, is: No, I don't think
>there is a SIMPLE way to do this.

I agree!  It took me about a month to puzzle out and implement an
algorithm for generating equivalent atom orders!  As Valery
Golender <valery@actcom.co.il> pointed out, the conformational
isomer problem is a specific instance of isomorphism of 3D objects.

Cheers,

Graham

P.S. If you want more ChemPlus or HyperChem product info, please
send email to info@hyper.com, not to me because I don't work
there anymore.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: Matt Stahl <matt@synthesis.chem.arizona.edu>
Greetings,
	The problem of duplicate conformer removal certainly is 
challenging, especially to anyone doing extensive conformational 
searches.  The "easy" method of detection is to compare a unique 
identifier based on atomic coordinates.  Shape descriptors such as the 
sum of interatomic distances, or the sum of all triangles in a molecule 
provide a single number to identify a conformation.  In this sense, 
energy is also a "shape descriptor" because it is simply a function 
operated on a set of coordinates.  As pointed out by Dr. Waldman, there 
is always the possibility of ambiguity when using this kind of 
descriptor.  I have seen cases in larger bicyclo alkanes where very 
different conformations had the same mechanics energy to the 5th or 
6th decimal place!
	There are several matters that must be addressed with regard to 
comparing conformations.  Rms fitting may not be the best measure of 
similarity when comparing long acyclic chains because of the 'torque' 
effect.  Torsional comparisons certainly have valid applications.  In 
general, rms fits work well with the exception of the problems of 
automorphism and enantiomeric coordinates.  Generating enantiomers is 
trivial.  Simply multiply all of the x, y, or z coordinates by -1 to 
generate the mirror image.  Automorphisms can be more of a problem.  They 
can be discovered by connectivity matrix manipulations (see 
balasubramanian in j. chem. inf. comp. sci. may/june 1994).  A much 
quicker approach is to effectively do an atom-by-atom max common 
substructure search using comparisons of atom types.  Once the 
automorphisms are discovered they can be used in both torsional and rms 
comparisons.
	Pat Walters and i have written a program called Padre (Population
Analysis and Duplicate REmoval) that will read multi-structure files,
automatically generate the automorphisms (and enantiomers if desired), and
do rms or torsional comparisons and identify duplicate conformers.  It
will also map rings onto each other and compare all possible overlays.  
Padre is FAR from completion, but the features currently implemented are 
solid.  Please contact me directly if you are interested in this software.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: Mick Kappler <kappler@SECS.UCSC.EDU>
> Is there a simple way of testing if two given conformational isomers
> are equiva
lent?

This question can be interpreted in two ways, as Joel Polowin indicated.

On Wed, 22 Feb 95 10:29:54 -0500, Joel Polowin wrote:

> I don't think the situation is quite so simple -- possibly depending on
> what is meant by conformers being "the same".

If one is interested in structural equivalency independent of conformation,
the SEMA algorithm (JACS, 96, 4834, 1974) is a solution.  If one is interested
in structural equivalency dependent of conformation, the solution is more
complex, as Marvin Waldman pointed out.

On Wed, 22 Feb 1995 14:47:42 -0800, Marvin Waldman wrote:

> This is, in fact, quite a difficult and subtle question.  The SEMA
> algorithm which Mick Sappler proposed can be used to detect if
> two CONFIGURATIONAL isomers are equivalent (ie. they have the
> same or different stereochemistry).  However, it will not detect
> if the same configurational isomers are equivalent or not in
> a CONFORMATIONAL sense.  SEMA cannot detect the difference between
> the gauche and trans forms of n-butane.  These are CONFORMATIONAL
> isomers.

This is correct.  The ultimate solution to the structural equivalency dependent
of conformation problem will depend on analytical features of the two
structures only.

On Thu, 23 Feb 1995 01:47:29 EST, CBAS25 ::P_BLADON ::CBAS25 wrote:

> There are several points to consider.
>
> (1) If the problem involves small molecules like butane where the number
> of stable conformers is known...

We can not assume we have anything but the two conformations that we wish to
compare.  Given a hypothetical structure, who knows the set of stable
conformers?

> (2) If the structures are more complex... then the number of conformers
> could be large.  But suppose that you have a set of such structures...

Again, let's not assume we know.

> (3) To do the matching you could use atom to atom matching...

This could take a long time, considering the size of the set of structures to
compare.  Is time an issue?  I imagine it is if you have a large set of
structures to compare.

On Wed, 22 Feb 1995 23:36:21 -0800, Victor M. Rosas Garcia wrote:

> ...The best implementation I have seen to solve this problem is in the
> program GMMX, a global minimum search utility by Serena Software.

If this works for you, this is great.  Unfortunately, this technique is only
as good as the software and comparison of conformation A by software X to
conformation B by software Y is impossible.  Hence, comparisons between
research groups may be a problem.  This is not to mention the multiple minima
problem, as E. Lewars pointed out.

On Wed, 22 Feb 1995 17:10:28 -0500, E. Lewars wrote:

> ...enantiomers have precisely the same energies...

On Wed, 22 Feb 1995 23:32:59 -0500, Graham Hurst wrote:

> The Conformational Search module of the ChemPlus set of extensions
> for HyperChem uses energy and RMS compairisons of topologically
> equivalent atom pairings.

RMS comparisons look promising at first.  Unfortunately, before the comparison
can be made, the conformations need to be superimposed, which is independent of
the conformation itself.  Although the superimposition can be solved
analytically, it is sometimes solved iteratively, and can be a source of
contention.  Can we solve this problem indepedent of transformation?

I would love to hear more from experts in this field.  This is an interesting
problem and this discussion has increased our interest in publishing our latest
work relating to conformational comparisons.

__________________________________________________________________________
From: Ramesh Gopalaswamy <rameshg@umich.edu>

I have been working with steroid conformational analysis in connection
with receptor modeling. I have generated several (typically 100) structures
(conformers) for each steroid using DGEOM program. Now I need to pick out
those conformers that are unique. (DGEOM generated structures might converge
to same minimum upon minimization). Any ideas on how to do that using
commercial modeling software or other shareware programs?
   Also, how to run minimizations (for 100 or so structures) as a background
job, instead of having to read in each structure on to the graphics 
interface? I have access to Quanta, Cerius2 and Sybyl. Thanks a lot.
Ramesh (rameshg@umich.edu)

__________________________________________________________________________
From: Harold Helson <Harold_Helson@camsci.com>

Hi DC, I hope you are well!
If I remember Wipke & Dyott's paper on SEMA ("Stereochemically extended Morgan 
algorithm") correctly, they propose some modifications to treat conformers.

Here is an idea that's not too carefully thought out, and would take more time

than you probably want to invest, but -- hell, it's an interesting problem.

    Canonicalization algorithms, which deliver a unique description of a
     molecule, incorporate some representation of a given bond's environment.

     In topological algorithms, this may merely be the bond order.  In con-
     figurational algorithms, it is more complex, also including cis/trans
     and chiral parity information.  What you would do is append additional
     configurational information, such as dihedral relationships along the
     path being grown.  This might be all there is to this problem.

     So you would perform conventional canonicalization, using the more
     detailed bonding representation.  You end up with one or more paths
      of equal priority, the presence of more than one reflecting automor-
      phisms (symmetry).  The power in SEMA is that it
      is a trivial operation to enumerate all the enantiomers and geometric
       isomers.  I expect that you would similarly be able to trivially enu-
       merate all the conformations, provided (and it's a big proviso) that
       you limited the dihedral angles to, say, multiples of thirty degrees,
        or whatever number is small enough to be a good approximation,
        but large enough so that the number of possible conformations does
        not go rapidly to infinity.  This is certainly a valid approximation
        in the gauche butane example you cite.

        You would be able to tell a mirror image because its stereochemical
         parity table (see Wipke & Dyott) would contain an inversion, but the

         extra, appended conformational table would be the same for both
         structures.  You could tell configurational isomers because their
         stereochemical tables would be identical, but their conformational
         tables would differ.
__________________________________________________________________________





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Subject: microscopic dissociation
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Dear colleagues!

Did any one of you try to calculate microscopic dissociation constants by any kind of 
computational chemistry method? Did you have any success? Are there hints in the 
literature? Any kind of advice will be useful.

I will summarise the result to the mailing list.

Thanks in advance

Kay Kreidler

Institut fuer Anorganische Chemie und Strukturchemie I
Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
Universitaetsstr. 1
40225 Duesseldorf
Email: kreidler@uni-duesseldorf.de

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********************************************************************************

				6th CHIANTI WORKSHOP ON
				MAGNETIC RESONANCE:
				NUCLEAR AND ELECTRON RELAXATION

********************************************************************************

	SAN MINIATO (PISA), ITALY, 	MAY 27 - JUNE 2, 1995

CHAIRPERSONS:	I. BERTINI (Univ. Florence), Conference Chairman
		K. MOEBIUS (Free Univ. Berlin), Program Chairman

ORGANIZERS:	R. BASOSI (Univ. Siena), C. LUCHINAT (Univ. Bologna),
		C.A. VERACINI (Univ. Pisa)

	The present Workshop, in the spirit of the series of the Chianti
Workshops, aims at bringing together scientists involved in theoretical and
experimental aspects of nuclear and electron spin relaxation to study the
structure and dynamics of molecules.

The main topics to be discussed by NMR and EPR scientists will deal with:
structure determination of biomolecules, spin polarization phenomena and 
processes, relaxation in paramagnetic systems, quasi-ordered phases,
spin imaging, new methodologies.

	The program will consist of invited lectures and poster presentations.
At the moment the following scientists have accepted an invitation to present
a lecture:
L. Banci (Florence), G. Bodenhausen (Tallahassee), R.D. Britt (Davis),
R. Bruschweiler (Zurich), M. Brustolon (Padova), D.A. Case (La Jolla),
V. Chizhik (St. Petersburg), K.P. Dinse (Darmstadt), R.Y. Dong (Brandon),
J.W. Emsley (Southampton), C. Forte (Pisa), J.H. Freed (Ithaca),
E. Gaggelli (Siena), G. Giacometti (Padova), D. Goldfarb (Rehovot),
C. Griesinger (Frankfurt/M.), R.G. Griffin (Cambridge, MA),
E.J.J. Groenen (Leiden), B. Halle (Lund), A.J. Hoff (Leiden),
B.M. Hoffman (Evanston), P. Hore (Oxford), W.L. Hubbell (Los Angeles),
M. Huber (Berlin), J. Huttermann (Homburg), J.S. Hyde (Milwaukee),
R. Ishima (Tsukuba), T.L. James (San Francisco), G. Kothe (Freiburg),
J. Kowalewski (Stockholm), Ya.S. Lebedev (Moscow), H. Levanon (Jerusalem),
W. Lubitz (Berlin), G.R. Luckhurst (Southampton), Z. Luz (Rehovot),
M.W. Makinen (Chicago), K.A. McLauchlan (Oxford), A.E. Merbach (Lausanne),
G. Navon (Tel Aviv), A. Pines (Berkeley), T.F. Prisner (Berlin),
K.M. Salikhov (Kazan), S. Schlick (Detroit), R. Sharp (Ann Arbor),
H.W. Spiess (Mainz), D. Stehlik (Berlin), U.E. Steiner (Konstanz),
S. Styring (Stockholm), W.H. Thomann (Annandale), R.R. Vold (San Diego),
L. Weiner (Rehovot), L. Werbelow (Marseille), P.O. Westlund (Umea).

	Participants intending to present posters on work related to the topics
of the Workshop are asked to submit an abstract (max. 1 page A4 format typed
single-spaced) of the proposed communication not later than April 15, 1995.
Since the total number of participants is limited, acceptance will be on a
"first come first served" basis.

	There is a registration fee of 250,000 Italian Lira for active
participants and 120,000 Italian Lira for accompanying persons. The cost of
the accommodation, based on sharing a twin-bedded room, plus all meals
(including Chianti wine!) will be 700,000 Italian Lira per person.

	For further information, please contact:
Prof. Riccardo Basosi, Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Siena,
Pian dei Mantellini, 44, 53100 Siena, Italy,TEL. 39/577 298040,FAX 39/577 280405	

Prof. Claudio Luchinat,c/o Dept. of Chemistry,Univ. of Florence		
Via G.Capponi, 7, 50121 Florence, Italy, TEL. 39/55 2757563, FAX 39/55 2757555	

Prof. Carlo A.Veracini, Dept. of Chemistry, Univ. of Pisa
Via Risorgimento, 35, 56100 Pisa, Italy, TEL. 39/50 918266, FAX 39/50 918260

	or the Program Chairman:
Prof. Klaus Moebius, Dept. of Physics, Free Univ. of Berlin, Arnimallee 14
D-14195 Berlin, Germany, TEL. 49/30 8382770, FAX 49/30 8386046


#############################################################################

For the REGISTRATION FORM please contact

Giacomo Parigi 
giacomo@risc1.lrm.fi.cnr.it

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Has anyone out there carried out amino acid mutations using BLOCK
If so do you know how to get around the problem of having interactions
between three blocks (blocks 2 and 3 containing different side chains)

thanks in advance
Matthew
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Dear all CCLers:

Can one obtain the density matrix (1st-order) and the pair function 
(giving a reference point) from Gaussian 92 output directly? I will give 
a summary here if there is any response.

Shubin
.............................................................................
Shubin Liu

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Last week I asked if anyone could tell me where to find Multi.  The current
version can be found at ftp://kamakazi.niehs.nih.gov/pub/MULTI/MULTI-3.1   .
[157.98.8.47]
Thanks to everyone that helped.

Andy


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From ANTHONY@admis.med.usf.edu Tue Feb 28 12:48:32 1995
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I am posting the results of my query of PhD programs in 
computational chemistry for all those who requested  this information.
Thanks to all those who replied and sorry for the delay in compiling 
this data:

========================================================
Quantum Theory Project,
University of Florida at Gainesville.
The Quantum Theory Project is the home of ZINDO, ACESII, AMPAC,
FLIMMSY, etc. and such luminaries as Michael Zerner, Rod Bartlett,
and Nigel Richards, etc.

Quantum Theory Project,
Williamson Hall,
University of Florida,
Gainesville FL 32611

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is a comp. chem. program here at UC Berkeley.
And I believe that Stanford, Cornell, Madison WI,
Caltech, and UCLA  also have good programs.

Clayton Springer
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Consider Rutgers University in New Jersey.  They have several 
professors there working on various aspects of theoretical 
chemistry.  You may also want to look at the University of Georgia.
						Jeff Nauss
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The Univ. of Houston has the chemical physics program joint by
physics and engineering departments. The professors in 
computatinal area are: B.M. Pettitt, D.J. Kouri, T.A. Albright, 
etc..
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is a program at Bryn Mawr College (near Philadelphia in 
Pennsylvania).
Michelle M. Francl
Associate Professor of Chemistry
Bryn Mawr College
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010
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        The ACS sells a CD-ROM called Directory of Graduate Research. 
 This
is a chemical science directory of all colleges and universities 
offering
chemistry curriculums.  I can send you a brochure on it if you like?  
Just
met me know.  
                                                        Nan Butterworth
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I received a forwarded message from Dr. Jim Gano of our department 
that you
were interested in graduate studies in computational chemistry.  Dr. 
Hua Guo
of our department is a nationally recognized computational physical 
chemist.
If you would like information on his research, our graduate program in 
     
chemistry, please send me your address and I will have the 
information mailed
to you.
Jon Kirchhoff
Chairman, Graduate Admissions Committee
The University of Toledo
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      I don't know if there is a degree in comp. chem. anywhere, but 
William
Jorgensen at Yale is well known in the field.  In practice, you get your
degree in either Physical chemistry or organic chemistry (or perhaps 
a more
bio related field) depending on your major interests.  This is true with
most people in the field.  (I got my degree from Bill).
      In addition, there is Peter Kollman at USCF pharmacy school, Ken 
Houk
at UCLA, Andy McCammon at UCSD, all having somewhat different 
focuses within
the field of computational chemistry.
      There are quite a few more, but those are most of the big names 
(Martin
Karplus at Harvard) as a starting point.
      Take care,
          Dan
========================================================
Cheers!
-ANT


______________________________________________________________________

Anthony Lemus                       (813) 974-3427
-Systems Analyst
University of South Florida         Anthony@admis.med.usf.edu
College of Medicine
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For those interested in parallel and scalable molecular dynamics simulation
of biological macromolecules: Version 0.9 of the program PMD has been
made available. This is an experimental program that uses the Greengard/
Rokhlin fast multipole algorithm (FMA) in conjunction with a constant
force multiple timestep method to permit the efficient simulation of large
biological macromolecules without cutting off the long range forces. For
more details, see "http://tincan.bioc.columbia.edu/pmd/" or the README
file from the distribution reproduced below.

---
Andreas Windemuth

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This is an experimental version of PMD,
Version 0.9, release Feb 28, 1995, all rights reserved.

PMD is a scalable, parallel program for the simulation of the
dynamics of biological macromolecules. PMD utilizes the
Greengard/Rokhlin Fast Multipole Algorithm to allow the
simulation of very large biological macromolecular systems
without sacrificing the important long-range Coulomb
interactions.  


The force field implemented by PMD is compatible to programs
such as CHARMM, X-PLOR, GROMOS, Discover and others. Residue
topology and parameter files suitable for X-PLOR can be used
with PMD. Particularly, PMD can fully implement the CHARMM19
CHARMM22 force fields. PMD is also intrinsically and
transparently parallel and suitable for running on a wide
variety of parallel architectures, both shared memory and
message passing.  


The most salient features of PMD are:

- Use of the Fast Multipole Algorithm allows for the calculation of the
  full long range electrostatic interactions in linear (of order N) time.

- The Distance Class Algorithm reduces the calculation time
  further to make full-range calculations faster than conventional
  cutoff methods.

- PMD is designed to be completely scalable, i.e. arbitrarily large systems
  (millions of atoms) can be simulated as long as enough processing nodes
  are available. Memory use is minimal, compared to other programs.

- PMD runs without changes on a large number of UNIX workstations and
  can easily be adapted to others. Parallel implementations exist for
  the CM-5, the Intel Paragon, the Cray T3D and workstation networks.

- Parallel instructions are limited to a small set of commands that are
  easily implemented in any machine specific or portable (TCGMSG, PVM,
  Linda) parallel processing interface.

PMD is work in progress. Expect plenty of changes of all
kinds in future versions. This program is made available to
encourage researchers to add  features they need and in the
hope that some of these improvements find their way back into
future versions. A mailing list has been established to foster
discussion among users and contributors. Please direct
inquiries to join the mailing list to
"pmd-request@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu".

The source code is being made available under the condition
that any additions, improvements or changes will be sent to
the author (windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu) for inclusion
into the distribution. No restrictions different from those on
PMD itself may be put on such contributions. PMD or parts of
it may not be used or distributed for non-disclosed corporate
research or commercially without prior consent of the author.   


If either the program or ideas from its code are used in a
publication, it is asked that the following references be cited:

J.A. Board Jr., J.W. Causey, J.F. Leathrum Jr., A. Windemuth, and K. Schulten.
Accelerated molecular dynamics simulation with the parallel fast multipole algorithm.
Chem. Phys. Lett. 198:89--94, 1992.

A. Windemuth and K. Schulten.
Molecular dynamics on the Connection Machine.
Molecular Simulation, 5:353--361, 1991.

A. Windemuth.
Advanced Algorithms for Molecular Dynamics Simulation: The Program PMD.
in "Parallel Computing in Computational Chemistry"
(Timothy G. Mattson, ed.), ACS Books, 1995, in press.


Installation:
    cd
    zcat pmd.tar.Z | tar xvf -

Demo run:
    cd pmd/demo
    make SYS=<machine>  (one of next hpux dec iris aix sun paragon)

Parallel demo run:
    [install TCGMSG and customize bin/par.<machine>]
    cd demo
    make SYS=<machine> PSYS=tcgmsg

This will start a simulation of Pancreatic Trypsin Inhibitor
(PTI), starting from the original PDB file, adding hydrogens,
equilibrating with harmonic constraints and a minimizing. Look
at "demo/makefile" and "src/make.sim" to see how the run is
controlled and how you might modify it to run your own
molecules. First, try changing the line "SYS=next" to reflect
the machine you are actually using. Then, try "make MOL=mb" to
run the solvated myoglobin setup that is frequently used as a
benchmark for CHARMM. Finally, try "make mutant" to generate
a Ile 3 -> Tyr mutant of T4 phage lysozyme (2lzm). Some of these
simulation will take quite some time if not interrupted. It is 

suggested to run them in the background using the ampersand ("&")
character, i.e. "make mutant &". The link "demo/log" will always
point to the newest simulation log. Try "tail -f log" to check on
the simulation progress.

Some other sample molecules are available in "demo". Their
topology is described in files "*.str", their atom coordinates
in files "*.pdb". It is quite straightforward to make your own
"*.str" files, once you study the sample files and "src/make.sim".

If you wish to run PMD in parallel, make sure that you have
TCGMSG or PVM installed and that there is a directory or link
"tcgmsg" or "pvm" in your home directory pointing to your
system's TCGMSG or PVM root directory. Edit "makefile" and
change the line "PSYS=serial" to one of the supported parallel
interfaces (tcgmsg, pvm, pvm-t3d). You also will have to
edit a startup script that sets up processes on the network.
The script has the name "par-$(SYS)-$(PSYS)" and it is located
in "bin". Some examples are provided, but you will almost
certainly have to adapt one of them to your own environment.
TCGMSG can be obtained from "ftp.tcg.anl.gov". See the file
"README.TCGMSG" for more information. Information on PVM can
be obtained at "http://www.epm.ornl.gov/pvm/pvm_home.html" on
the World-Wide Web. For information on the Cray T3D refer to
"http://pscinfo.psc.edu/machines/cray/t3d/t3d.html".


Documentation:
    This file, some scattered comments in makefiles and scripts,
    and the World Wide Web pages.

Main features:
    Fast multipole algorithm
	Linear scaling enables simulation of extremely large systems
	Full long range interactions with no cut-off
    Distance class algorithm
	Accounts for full long-range interaction while providing
	performance better than conventional cut-off calculations
    Scalable parallel implementation on
    	Workstation networks (with TCGMSG or PVM)
	Cray T3D (PVM)
	Convex Exemplar (TCGMSG)
    	Intel Paragon (TCGMSG)
	Thinking Machines CM-5 (slow, no vector units, no longer supported)
	Parsytec GC  (initial implementation, no longer supported)
    Now implemented:
	Growing of hydrogens
	Mutation (Growing of sidechains)
	Building solvation shells
	Superposition and RMS-values
	Solvent accessible surface (no forces, yet)
	Harmonic constraints
	Stochastic boundary (friction and random fluctuations)
	Restart files and DCD trajectories
	
Main limitations:
    FMA and atom reassignment not fully scalable (yet)
    No vectorization
    Not enough features

Forthcoming: (no guarantees, of course :-) )
    Advanced solvent treatment
	Generalized Born potential
	Hydrophobic forces and continuum electrostatics with forces
    FMA and atom reassignment
	Improved scalable versions
	Periodic boundary conditions
    Other features
	Containment fields for closed boundary
	Pretty pictures (ray-tracing and movies)

Adapting PMD to other parallel systems:

All machine-specific parallel communication commands have
been isolated into one file, called the adaptor. The adaptors
in the current release are "tcgmsg.c": for the TCGMSG public
domain parallel programming Interface, "pvm.c": for the PVM
public domain parallel programming Interface, "cm5.c": for
the Connection Machine 5 with CMMD-3.0, "pvm-t3d.c" for the
restricted set of PVM used on the Cray T3D, and "serial.c": for
non-parallel workstation implementations. With TCGMSG or PVM
PMD can be run on a wide variety of platforms, such as workstation
networks, the Intel Paragon and the Convex Exemplar. Other
adaptors are expected to become available as work progresses.

Changes from 0.8:

- Much improved makefiles and compilation
- Simplified parallel execution
- Parallel output is now much faster and should always work
- new trajectory format, with PDB and DCD conversion utility
- PVM and the Cray T3D are now supported
- Numerous bugs corrected.
- Everything else also improved.

Have fun!

Andreas Windemuth

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Dear all computational chemists,

Does anyone know of a method for modeling transition metal complexes.  For
example, Fe(0) and carbon tetrachloride?  I believe at this moment that
most canned programs do not have this capability.  I think that "Cerius"
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Dear Netters,

Would someone be so kind to send me the address and name
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Hi there, everybody.

Is anyone aware of any computational work on Grignard
reaction intermediates?  

Is there any hope of guessing at an intermediate geometry
and running a calculation with any meaning whatsoever?

Is there any way to get information about the electronic
structure of a reaction intermediate?

Any information, advice, or informed opinion will be welcomed.

Thanks very much,


Mary Jo Ondrechen

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