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This database system is referred to in the Gaussian manual, but I have 
not been able to find just what it is, or where it can be obtained from. 
Does anybody care to comment on the usefulness of this software? I will 
write to help@gaussian.com and ask where to get hold of it if nobody on 
the list knows.

	Tony

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Hi;
I have some g92 frequency output with no force fields. I would like 
to know if anybody out there has or knows of a code (prefferably 
fortran) which can generate the force constants/fields from such an 
output.

I will summarise the reponses to the list if there is interest.

T M Tshehla 
University of Natal Durban.

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Hi netters;
I have some interesting findings here. I was trying to apply 
Basis set superposition error corrections to the interaction 
energies of some of the systems I have been studying using mp2/6-
31g**. What is interesting is that the BSSE value has a negative sign
which blows the value of delta E corrected way beyond the simple van 
der Waal complex (indeed it is beyond the strongest chemical bonding 
systems).

The complex is a fairly weak one from the geometry distortions. I 
would not have expected the interaction energy to be anything over 
200 kJ/mol. I thus assummed that the results I got are inconlusive.

The question I would to pose is this? What are the implications of a 
negative BSSE?

Comments to be summarised

T M Tshehla

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Dear CCLers,
   I looked at the bacteriorhodopsin files (for example, pdb1bad.ent).
It is not clear to me to what extent is the structure theoretical, and
to what extent it is based on the experimental data. If the coordinates
are based on experiment, why is the model reffered to as theoretical?
   Another question concerns the bacteriorhodopsin sequence. I couldn't find
the pdb sequence in swiss-prot: the sequences there are different than
the ones in pdb. Am I mistaken, or is there an explanation to this?
I would be very grateful to any information you can provide me.

Naomi Siew
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     Dear Colleagues,

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Hi,
 
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Dear netters,
I have g92 on Indigo2 (32MB RAM). I use external HD scratch (1.6 GB). When I
run any computations (typically optimalization HF/6-31g*, 180 basis functions)
CPU usage for my job is only about 20-30%. CPU idles due to waiting for I/O
operations. Monitoring the input/output activity to block devices reveals
reading large bulks of data. Has anybody hint how to increase the performance
of computations.
Thanks to all who respond.
Regards,
Marek

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    Dear sirs,

        I try to run the IPCM solvent model in G94.
    Below is my input line:
    "#MP2/6-311++g** SCRF=IPCM sp"
    " Z-matrix"
    "80.0 0.001"

    But it is always crash at the "One-electron integrals computed using PRISM."

    The SCI-PCM model also have the similar results, but
    I can calculate the opt and freq at the SCI-PCM model!

    Can anyone help me ? Thanks!

                         Gavin Tsai

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Dear colleagues,

there is a question to the whole community of G94-users.

We have much trouble with the G94-relaese (Revision B1) running on an rs6000
cluster
supervised by the ibm loadleveler.
Within the loadleveler configuration one can specify the maximum size of the
data
segment that is used by the submitted job; in our configuration this value
is set to 1280 MB (this should be enough for conventional programs and there
is no way to increase this ).
Nevertheless all trails to submit an G94 job via the loadleveler breaks down,
because the size of data segments used by G94 seems to be large than the
configurated value of 1280 MB ( the so-called hardlimit). Therefore the job is
not able to start, it is immediately killed by the system.
By starting a small gaussain job from a 'pure' unix shell (without any
loadleveler
environment) all is O.K., but for larger production jobs we have to use the
loadleveler environment.

After inspection the sources i can not found any call of system-functions like
vlimit, setrlimit, brk or sbrk (in order to explicit choose the size), so i was
not
able to modify the source to reduce the amount of data segments needed.

The same or maybe similar problems might be arise also in within other queueing
systems
like NQS ... .

I have no idea about solving this problem, so any suggestions or hints are
highly appreciated.

Desperatly hoping any responds
regards

	Sven

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From: jeanne@TC.Cornell.EDU (Jeanne C. Butler)
Subject: Cornell Theory Center Symposium


CORNELL THEORY CENTER SYMPOSIUM

"PROTEIN STRUCTURE AND FOLDING"

OCTOBER 10 -11, 1995

700 CLARK HALL

CORNELL UNIVERSITY CAMPUS

SPEAKERS
Ken Dill, University of California, San Francisco
Jane Dyson, Scripps Research Institute
Steven Ealick, Cornell University
Richard Friesner, Columbia University
Barry Honig, Columbia University
Michael Levitt, Stanford University
Montgomery Pettit, University of Houston
Matthew Pincus, Veterans Administration Medical Center
Eugene Shakhnovich, Harvard University
David Shalloway, Cornell University
John Straub, Boston University

WHO WE ARE
The Parallel Processing Resource for Biomedical Scientists at the Cornell
Theory Center (CTC) supports research in macromolecular structure and
dynamics through the advancement of scalable parallel processing technology
and the improvement of computational methodologies. Core research focuses
on the development of scalable, portable programs to run optimally on
highly parallel computing systems; the assessment of innovative software
tools; and the adaptation of these tools to parallel systems for
application to problems involving large molecules.

This resource, funded by the National Center for Research Resources (NCRR)
at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), provides high-performance
computing resources, computer science expertise, and technical and
visualization support for a variety of projects.  Researchers interested in
requesting an allocations form can contact:

Pat Colasurdo, Allocations Coordinator
607-254-8694
pat@tc.cornell.edu
http://www.tc.cornell.edu/UserDoc/GenInfo/alloc.html.

CTC activities are supported by major funding from the National Science
Foundation and New York State, with additional funding from the Advanced
Research Projects Agency, the National Center for Research Resources at the
National Institutes of Health, IBM, and other members of CTC's Corporate
Research Institute. General information on CTC is available at
http://www.tc.cornell.edu/Highlights.html.

POSTER SESSION / VIDEO THEATRE
To apply for a poster session and/or video theatre presentation, please
send a reasearch abstract to donna@tc.cornell.edu no later than September
15, 1995.

--------------------------
REGISTRATION FORM
Name: ___

Company: ___

Address: ___

Telephone: ___

Fax: ___

Email: ___

How did you hear about this sympsoium: ___

___ I will be presenting a poster

___ I will be presenting a video
--------------------------


Send to:
Donna Smith
Conference Coordinator
Cornell Theory Center
422 Frank H. T. Rhodes Hall
Ithaca, NY  14853-3801

Access via URL:
http://www.tc.cornell.edu/



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Subject: Parallel Comp Chem. Book


>>>>
<<<<  Here is a new book I thought this group would be interested
<<<<  in.  All profits from the book go to a good cause -- the 
>>>>  Computers in Chemistry Division of the ACS -- so we should 
>>>>  all buy several copies.
>>>>

       Parallel Computing in Computational Chemistry
       =============================================
                ACS Symposium Series # 592
       Edited by Timothy G. Mattson (tgm@ssd.intel.com)

          Order from ACS by calling: 800-ACS-5558
             Cloth bound, 232 pages, Cost $69.95

This book explores the state of the art in parallel computing as
applied to computational chemistry.  The papers in the book range
>from tutorials to discussions of the latest advanced algorithms.
While the seasoned parallel programmer will gain a great deal
>from this book, an introduction to parallel computing is included
so novices will be able to read the book as well.

Contents
========

1. Parallel Computing, 
   T. G. Mattson

2.  Parallel Implementation of the Electronic Structure Code:
    GAMESS.  T. Windus M.W. Schmidt, and M.S. Gordon

3.  Applications of Parallel GAMESS.  K.K. Baldridge, M.S. Gordon, 
    J. H. Jensen, N. Matsunaga, M. Schmidt, T. Windus, J. A. Boatz
    and T. R. Cundari.

4. Object Oriented Implementation of Parallel ab initio Programs.
   C. L. Janssen, E.T. Seidl,  and M. Colvin 

5. Ab initial quantum chemistry on a workstation cluster.  D. Turner, 
   G. Trucks, and M. Frisch

6. Parallelization of a Multireference Configurations Interaction
   Program - the Parallel COLUMBUS Program, H. Lischka, H. Dachsel,
   R. Shepard, and R. J. Harrison.

7. Efficient Parallel Computation of Electron Transfer Resonance 
   Matrix Elements between GVB wavefunctions: Algorithm Design and 
   Chemical Results.  E. P. Bierwagon, T. R. Coley, and W. A. Goddard  

8. Promises and Perils of Parallel Semiempirical Quantum
    Methods, Kim Baldridge

9. Parallel Molecular dynamics Algorithms for Simulation of 
   molecular Systems
   S. Plimpton and B. Hencrickson

10. Portable Molecular Dynamics Software for Parallel Computing,
    T. Mattson and G. Ravishanker

11. Advanced Algorithms for Molecular Dynamics Simulation: The
    program PMD. A. Windemuth 

12. Parallelization of Poisson-Boltzmann and Brownian Dynamics 
    Calculations. A. Ilin, B. Bagheri, L. R. Scott, J. M. Briggs,
    and J. A. McCammon.

13. Classical and Quantum Molecular Dynamics Simulation on 
   Distributed memory Massively Parallel Computers. Z. Li, 
   R. B. Gerber, and  C.C. Martens

14. Biomolecular Structure Prediction Using the Double-Iterated
    Kalman Filter and Neural Networks. J. A. Lupo, S. B. Fairchild, 
    R. Pachter, and W. Adams


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        I was curious if anyone who uses gaussian 94 and xmol
	has a copy of an xvibs program that will extract the
	vibrational modes from gaussian 94 output.

	I will summarize any responses.

	Thanks.

	Scott E. Boesch
	Department of Chemistry
	University of Oklahoma
	Norman, OK 73019

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I was wondering if anyone knew of a book or review article that gave
full run downs on semi-empirical methods such as AM1,PM3, MNDO-d, and 
all the others.  I have a lot of books that give brief descriptions of
the methods, but none that go into detail to what parameters are used and
etc.. Thanks John Pollard

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Dear Netters:

On June 7, I posted a request asking how many universities/institutes
maintain molecular modeling core facilities and how much they charge users.
Here is a summary of the responses I received:

Of the nine responses I received from universities, six claimed they do
not charge users.
The seventh respondent stated they charge $600/yr, flat rate.
The eighth respondent stated they originally charged $15/hr, but later
charged a flat rate (to be requested by users in their grant proposals).
The ninth respondent stated that they charge $1.10 CPU-hr, $4.00/hr login
time, and $0.80 Mbyte/month storage fee.

Two drug companies responded. The first respondent stated that they do not
charge other departments unless use becomes excessive. The second respondent
stated that molecular modeling was distributed throughout many departments,
with each department assuming financial responsibility for their users.

One government sponsered institute responded (a Supercomputing Center). They
stated that there was no charge for non-proprietary work, but that all
proposals needed to first pass an internal review. No help is provided to 
users (you're on your own).

One respondent made the following statement, which pretty well sums it up:

"I can tell you from long experience that no matter how much people like
having a molecular modeling facility available, the price they are willing
to pay for it is effectively ZERO. By that I mean that there is little chance
of recovering a reasonable fraction of expenses without raising the price
high enough that people will start thinking about buying their own workstation
and hoping they can wing it..."

Thanks to all who responded.

Mark A. Sherman, Ph.D.
Director, Molecular Modeling Facility
Beckman Research Institute of the City of Hope, Duarte, California 91010
sherm@coh.org


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Dear CCL readers,

The CMU archive is a list of the results of the QM calculations performed
by various researchers over a considerable period of time.  We actually
have an account to it based on our purchase of the browse program.  This
has entitled us to 4hrs of free connnect time.

The browse program itself interfaces with gaussian through link9999 ( a new
version of this link is supplied). You simply don't put "test" in the job
line to allow the automatic archiving of the calculation.  One problem with
this method is that good as well as junk calculations tend to be archived
with equal facility and the database gets filled with useless information
or
even more devious, information that is misleading.

Removal of the junk info is possible, but our copy of browse does not allow this
and although we have asked gaussian about it no version of browse has been made
available to us that does allow the removal of useless info.  One can
of course be very careful with the use of the "test" directive, but in a
research group that has many people many mistakes are bound to happen, with no
possibility of recovery.

Browse will allow the interogation of the database to obtain geometrical info,
perform the l716 stuff to get vibrational frequencies etc etc. From this point of
of view it is useful.

In our research group however we have found that the automatic archiving of
the calculation results is not particually useful, mainly for the reasons I
have given above. Also we use other programs for which the results are at
least as important as those derived from gaussian runs. To this end we have
developed an archiving enviroment that is done initially on a personal level
and at suitable times the personal archive can be made available to the
research group as a whole. This enviroment allows the archiving of (at the
moment) gaussian and aces2 results. The results from molpro94 and turbomole
is under development.

I hope this is some use to the wider CCL community,

Anthony P. Scott
Research Officer
Computational Chemistry Group
Research School of Chemistry
Australian National University
Canberra, ACT, Australia

