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Wayne Huang wrote:

This (the PM3 CRF problem) can be corrected by introducing a repulsive term
between non-bonded
hydrogens into the PM3 energy expression, which allows it rapidly approaches
to zero with increasing H--H distance and becomes insignificant for
distances greater than about 2 angstrom.

Comments:

This may solve the H-H problem, but i will not solve e.g. the O-H problem.
One should introduce a different H CRF, which work correctly.

Gabor


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In article <01BAA927.C279F0A0@intel5.biosym.com> Richard Macdonald <richard@biosym.com> writes:

> 
> I remember reading a write-up of the protein modeling challenge
> held at Asimomar recently (I think it was in Protein Science).
> But I can not find it now.
> 
> Could some kind soul point me to the reference?
> 

If I remember correctly they will appear in proteins
and very soon, but I haven't seen them yet

arne



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In article <01BAA927.C279F0A0@intel5.biosym.com> Richard Macdonald <richard@biosym.com> writes:

> 
> I remember reading a write-up of the protein modeling challenge
> held at Asimomar recently (I think it was in Protein Science).
> But I can not find it now.
> 
> Could some kind soul point me to the reference?
> 

If I remember correctly they will appear in proteins
and very soon, but I haven't seen them yet

arne



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This is a reminder for all of you who plan to attend and present a paper
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Hi,
I am interested to run semiempirical calculations on a Cobalt complex 
that undergoes a reaction with  HSnPh3. The transition state and the 
product therefore incorporates both Co and Sn atoms . The problem is that 
I am unaware of a program that is parametrized for both Co and Sn.
PM3 is parametrized for Sn and ZINDO1 is parametrized for Co ...
My computational facilities are limited but if you can suggest basis set 
that will not be costly I can try that too.
I wellcome all suggestions on the subject.
Thanks
Tereza Varnali
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On Nov 4,  2:42pm, Miroslaw Sopek wrote:
> Subject: CCL:Na,Li,Ca in Pm3 and Am1
> Hello netters,
> Is anybody on the net aware of any trial
> of adding parameters for 'Na' and 'Li' to PM3
> and 'Na' for AM1 ('Li' is already present).
> The same question about parameters for 'Ca'
> in both methods.
>
> I will summarize the answers for the net,
> Mirek
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> dr Miroslaw Sopek
> Institute of Applied Radiation Chemistry
> Lodz, Poland
> ----------------------- sopekmir@mitr.p.lodz.pl
>

Anders et.al have published their Li parameters on PM3 (J. Copmt. Chem.,
14(11), 1301(1993). In Wavefunction, Inc, I have almoust finished the
parameterization of Ca and will release it soon.

Jianguo Yu

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Dear Netters,
I would appreciate if some of you who are holding positions as
Computational Chemistry (Hardware/ Software / Teaching) related
posposoi

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Dear Netters,
Sorry for the earlier truncated message..
I lost connection to my account on VMS

The full question follows ::
 I would appreciate very much if people who have Computational
Chemistry position in CHEMISTRY DEPARTMENT (either for teaching/
Hardware/Software) would contact me and let me know the role
they play in upkeep of the computational facilities and labs
or direct me to their home pages.
Thanks a lot.
Regards
Satyam

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Dear Gurus of G92/94,

Something for you here please.

I have run two a bit different G92
jobs and got astoundingly different results.
I.e. one job failed in Lnk1e,
while the second successfully completed.

Why?! An explanation will be so much
appreciated.

If any of you think they can
figure it out, waisting not so much
of your valuable time, I would be glad 
to supply more of the output from these
puzzling jobs.

Remark: I am putting beneath the error piece
of the output of the failed job and both inputs,
failed and successful. The platform is DEC AXP.
But the same is on IBM RS6000/590 with AIX,
with that difference in error message
that UNIX systems complains about "memory fault".
I honestly tried to "format" a bit
these pieces of I/O, though one knows that
not so much could be done about it.

Best regards,
Ayaz Bakasov.
********************************************
Now, to details.
The molecule is the same for both jobs:
N2O4.

The method is the same: CIS.

The ONLY difference is in geometry:
-- the first job is for planar geometry (D2H);
-- the second one - for twisted geometry (D2).

Both jobs completed RHF stage with
the standard message "SCF DONE".

The failure apparently occurs at
the beginning of the CIS stage
for the "planar" job.
[I wonder why. The symmetry is higher
 so it must in principle require less
 memory for storage or whatever
 manipulation is sought in Davidson
 procedure.]

So, the first job failed some time after
"SCF DONE", with the following message:

> RHF GROUND STATE
> Number of initial states reduced to 1000
> due to Davidson diagonalization limit of 2000.
> MDV IS:   7000000
> Making orbital integer symmetry assigments:
> ORBITAL SYMMETRIES.
>       OCCUPIED  (B3G) (B2U) (B1U) (AG) (AG) (B1U) (AG) (B1U) (B2U)
>                 (B3G) (AG) (B1U) (AG) (B3U) (B2G) (B2U) (B1U)
>                 (B3G) (AG) (B1G) (AU) (B2U) (B3G)
>       VIRTUAL   (B1U) (B3U) (B2G) (B2U) (B3G) (AG) (B1U) (B3U)
>                 (B2U) (AG) (B1U) (B2G) (AG) (B3G) (B2U) (B3U)
>                 (B1U) (B3G) (B1G) (AU) (AG) (B2G) (B1U) (AG) (B3G)
>                 (B2U) (B1U) (AG) (B1U) (B2U) (B3G)
>   527 initial guesses have been made.
> Convergence on wavefunction:    0.000100000000000
> Davidson Disk Diagonalization is being used.
> MSek=  527 requested MaxMI=  200 MaxDav= 2000.
> Error termination in Lnk1e.

******************* 
*******************
INPUTS:
*******
The two inputs are these
(they differ ONLY in dihedral angle,
 for the 1st job it is zero, 
 for the second one it is 60.0):

%%%%%%%%%% "PLANAR" INPUT (which failed) %%%%%%%%
%Mem=7000000
 Default route: MAXDISK=30000000
 -----------------------------------------------------
 #CIS(NSTATES=200,TRIPLETS) 6-31G SCF=DIRECT IOp(9/40=3) FChk=MO
 ------------------------------------------------------
 1/29=10000/1;
 2/12=2,17=6,18=5/2;
 3/5=1,6=6,11=9,25=1,30=1/1,2,8,3;
 4//1;
 5/5=2,38=4/2;
 8/6=1,10=1,27=30000000/1,4;
 9/27=30000000,40=3,41=200,42=3,48=3/14;
 6/7=2,8=2,9=2,10=2,19=1/1;
 99/5=1,9=1/99;
 ---------------------
 631G; N2O4 PLANAR !!!
 ---------------------
 Symbolic Z-matrix:
    Charge = 0 Multiplicity = 1
 N
 N     1     1.786 
 O     1     1.208     2     135.3 
 O     1     1.208     2     135.3     3     180.      0
 O     2     1.208     1     135.3     3     0.        0
 O     2     1.208     1     135.3     3     180.      0

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%%%%%%%%%%%% "TWISTED" INPUT (successful!) %%%%%%%%%%%
 %Mem=7000000
 Default route: MAXDISK=30000000
 ------------------------------------------------------
 #CIS(NSTATES=200,TRIPLETS) 6-31G SCF=DIRECT IOp(9/40=3) FChk=MO
 ---------------------------------------------------
 1/29=10000/1;
 2/12=2,17=6,18=5/2;
 3/5=1,6=6,11=9,25=1,30=1/1,2,8,3;
 4//1;
 5/5=2,38=4/2;
 8/6=1,10=1,27=30000000/1,4;
 9/27=30000000,40=3,41=200,42=3,48=3/14;
 6/7=2,8=2,9=2,10=2,19=1/1;
 99/5=1,9=1/99;
 ------------------------------
 631G; N2O4 TWISTED TO 60 DEGREES.
 ------------------------------
 Symbolic Z-matrix:
    Charge = 0 Multiplicity = 1
 N
 N     1     1.786 
 O     1     1.208     2     135.3 
 O     1     1.208     2     135.3     3     180.      0
 O     2     1.208     1     135.3     3     60.       0
 O     2     1.208     1     135.3     3     240.      0


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Hi!

Before I rediscover the wheel I would like to know if anyone is aware of
a program to generate coordinates for a starburst dendrimer given
its core and unit fragments. Alternatively, is there a repository of
some of these coordinates, similar to those for C60?

Thanks?

Gustavo A. Mercier, Jr. M.D.-Ph.D.
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Hi Netters,

We have been trying to develop parameters for the Zinc ion in the active 
site of an enzyme ( a fairly typical problem). The ion is surrounded by 
three neutral histidines, a charged carboxylate and a hydroxyl group of 
an inhibitor/ligand. We performed MOPAC6.0 (with AM1 & MNDO Hamiltonians) 
on a model system (single point calculation) and we obtain a value of 
approx. +0.7 on Zinc (Mulliken charge). Gaussian 94 calculations at 
3-21G* level indicate a higher Mulliken charge of approx. 1.0. 

I would like to use CHELPG charges which necessitates the use of right 
vdW radii. For neutral Zinc, the Bondi radius (J. Phys. Chem. 68. 441) 
is 1.39 A, which is clearly not appropriate. Can any one point to recent 
references or suggest a method? I will be happy to summarize the 
responses (with regard to vdW radii & modeling the charge in the active 
site of an enzyme for the Zinc ion).

Vellarkad N. Viswanadhan

vis@gensia.com 

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Hi Netters,

On Nov 6,  3:10pm, YARD.DOC. TEREZA VARNALI wrote:
> Subject: CCL:semiempirical calculations on a complex of Co and Sn.
> Hi,
> I am interested to run semiempirical calculations on a Cobalt complex
> that undergoes a reaction with  HSnPh3. The transition state and the
> product therefore incorporates both Co and Sn atoms . The problem is that
> I am unaware of a program that is parametrized for both Co and Sn.
> PM3 is parametrized for Sn and ZINDO1 is parametrized for Co ...
> My computational facilities are limited but if you can suggest basis set
> that will not be costly I can try that too.
> I wellcome all suggestions on the subject.
> Thanks
> Tereza Varnali
> Varnali@ds5500.cc.boun.edu.tr
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I have developed the Co parameters in PM3 ( and othet metels, such as Cu, Ni,
Fe, Mn, Cr, Ti, ..., too) and we call our method PM3(TM). Our package, SPARTAN,
can do PM3(TM) calculations. If you interested, please contact
   sales@wavefun.com

Thanks,

Jianguo Yu


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Regarding the quest for a program have both Co and Sn paramters:

Spartan semiempirical PM3(tm) module has Co parameters, along with original
Sn PM3 parameters, which should be able to deal with your system.
This module has been actively under development the past year or so, along
with our DFT module, aiming to provide tools for transition metals modeling.
Currently PM3(TM), which includes d-orbitals, has parameters for total of
14 d transition metals (Ti, Cr, Mn, Fe, Co, Ni, Cu, Zr, Mo, Rh, Pd, Hf, Ta
and W) plus Gd from La series. In additional of TM parameters. Boron parameters
are also available for PM3 method.

The intial results these parameters seem to be promising. I could send
you some of these calculations if you want or run some calculations on your
test molecules.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any question.

--Wayne


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   Just to alert CCL readers that the Computers in Chemistry Division of the
American Chemical Society has opened a Web site. It is newborn, so comments
are welcome on various aspects (see the page).

   Site is http://hackberry.chem.niu.edu/COMP/

   Thanks to Steven Bachrach at NIU for considerable support.

CJC
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Hi Gustavo,

Your in luck!

>Before I rediscover the wheel I would like to know if anyone is aware of
>a program to generate coordinates for a starburst dendrimer given
>its core and unit fragments. Alternatively, is there a repository of
>some of these coordinates, similar to those for C60?

I don't know about a repository of coordinates, but there was a poster given
just last week at the Midland Section ACS meeting on exactly that: software
they have developed and are using to build dendrimers for modeling.  I
believe they are up to 7th generation dendrimers and higher, depending on
whether you use a divergent synthesis or a convergent synthesis.

The email address I have for Leela Rakesh, at Central Michigan University, is:

 37WLWOO@CMUVM

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Hello, CCls,
	When I run the relaxed potential surface scan using Gaussian 94. 
The computer give me "Input z-matrix variables are not compatible with 
final structure." and "ERRor termination"

	Anybody can give me some idea what I did wrong here and how to avoid?

	Many thanks!

xiaopeng

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Subject: Re: CCL:G:Parametrization for Zinc / charges & vdW radius
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Viswanadhan wrote:
: 
: 
: I would like to use CHELPG charges which necessitates the use of right 
: vdW radii. For neutral Zinc, the Bondi radius (J. Phys. Chem. 68. 441) 
: is 1.39 A, which is clearly not appropriate. Can any one point to recent 
: references or suggest a method? I will be happy to summarize the 
: responses (with regard to vdW radii & modeling the charge in the active 
: site of an enzyme for the Zinc ion).
: 
: Vellarkad N. Viswanadhan
: 


	Yes, what does constitute "good" vdW radii. In our work on Fe-S
	centers in proteins we've noticed that the actual charges calculated
	by CHELPG vary significantly depending on whether
	you use Breneman&Wiberg radii or Gavizotti&Spackman radii.
	Generally, Breneman & Wiberg based charges seem "better behaved" in
	our systems.

	Also, we've noticed that many groups use radii designed for other
	purposes and "plug" these into the CHELPG algorithm.

	What are the rationals people use in choosing their radii?

	-Brian
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Dear Sir,

I want to access CCL, please make me a member.

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