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Hi!

I am sorry for the incorrect subject line of my previous message.  I 
pressed the wrong button (again!).

All the best

Alex

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Hi!

I am interested in the Monticarlo driving routine.  IE I give it energy 
and gradients - and it comes back with a step vector.

Does anyone know of a public domane version of such a thing.  

Also - has anyone done Monticarlo with Charmm?

Thanks in advance

Alex

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From Jeffrey.Gosper@brunel.ac.uk  Thu Mar 21 08:26:36 1996
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On Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:59:55 -0500 insenk wrote:


> 
> I am trying to prepare a somewhat special picture with XMol. To do so
> I must be able to feed connectivity information into the program.
> But the only two file formats understood by XMol for which I have
> documentation are PDB and XYZ. XYZ does not allow connectivity
> data, and the PDB connectivity records seem to be ignored by XMol.
> 
> Therefore I am looking for a file format that satisfies the following
> requirements:
> 1) It is understood by XMol, including connectivity information.
> 2) Its description is publicly available.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe you should try Re_View instead which allows bonding information to be altered by the user. 
See below for details.

If this is not good enough the latest (yet unreleased version) can read in connectivities and bond order 
information. If your interested in further information please contact me.






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Abstract deadline:  April 19 on official ACS abstract form.
ACS abstract forms may be requested from 
        (1) http://www.acs.org/memgen/meetings/abrqst.htm
        (2) Ann Nelson (a_nelson@acs.org) 
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                 -- Final call for papers -- 
                               
                  VALIDATION METHODS IN COMPUTATIONAL CHEMISTRY

American Chemical Society	COMP Division
212th National Meeting		Orlando, Florida
		August 25-29, 1996

        What we are hoping to highlight through this Symposium is how experts 
evaluate the relevance and the completeness of a validation experiment 
in Comp Chem. All aspects of this topic are welcome from software release
validation to validation of the results of a particular experiment etc. 
We hope to have some good examples to offer of the choices of positive and 
negative controls in such experiments.

 
     If you are planning to make a presentation in this symposium please 
ensure that your abstract reaches one of us on the official abstract form 
**BEFORE** the deadline. It will be very difficult or impossible to add 
you in if this is not done. If you are one of those who has already written 
in earlier asking if you could be a part of this symposium please go ahead 
and send in an abstract. We will do our best to fit you in. The response 
to this one has been large-to-overwhelming and we both thank you for that.
 
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A few days ago I asked about ways to feed a bond list into XMol for
display. Judging from the many responses I received, this seems to
be a popular problem.

The solution that worked best for me is to load the structure in
whatever format into XMol, save in Alchemy format, edit the bond list
in the Alchemy file, and load it back into XMol. While no one seems to
have a precise description of the Alchemy format, its structure is
rather obvious and I had no problems in modifying it.

The second most frequently proposed method was to add more atom types
and adjust their radii to make the bonds come out correctly. But
for my application, and probably for most others, this procedure
is a lot more tedious than the previous one.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question.

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