From D31@vm.baum.anadolu.edu.tr Mon Apr 8 05:45:15 1996 Received: from phem3 for D31@vm.baum.anadolu.edu.tr by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id EAA21790; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 04:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VM.BAUM.ANADOLU.EDU.TR (MAILER@TRANAVM1) by phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #5888) id <01I3A9ONZNO08WZA6T@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:49:20 EST Received: from vm.baum.anadolu.edu.tr (D31) by VM.BAUM.ANADOLU.EDU.TR (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 9430; Mon, 08 Apr 96 11:46:09 UTC Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 11:32:48 UTC From: suleyman aydin Subject: 2nd int. symposium ON chem.nat.prod. To: napronet@bilkent.edu.tr, herb%trearn.BITNET@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu, dost%trearn.BITNET@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu, bio-dost%trearn.BITNET@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu, tip-L@bilkent.edu.tr, cheme-l%ulkyvm.BITNET@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu, CHMINF-L@IUBVM.UCS.INDIANA.EDU, CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net Message-id: <01I3A9ONZNO28WZA6T@phem3.acs.ohio-state.edu> Organization: Anadolu University, Eskisehir-TURKEY X-Envelope-to: CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Acknowledge-To: 2 nd INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON THE C H E M I S T R Y of N A T U R A L C O M P O U N D S (SCNC) 22-24 OCTOBER 1996 - ESKISEHIR / TURKEY The 1st Symposium on the Chemistry of Natural Compounds was held between october 5-7, 1994 in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. ... Interested scientists with OR without scientific contribution are invited Secreteriat: - - - - - - 2nd International Symposium on the Chemistry of Natural Compunds Dr. Nese KIRIMER Anadolu University Medicinal and Aromatic and Drug Research Centre (TBAM) 26470 - Eskisehir / TURKEY -the above address holds also for the snail-mail address- e-mail: tbam@vm.baum.anadolu.edu.tr fax-mail: +90.222.3350127 voice-mail: +90.222.3352952 telex.....: 35147 esak tr R E G I S T R A T I O N - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Registration includes attendance in all sessions, coffe/tea, lunch, welcome reception and symposium stationary. Venue . . . . . .: Anadolu University, Eskisehir, Turkey Language . . . . : English Registration fees: 60 USD (before 1st Aug.1996) 75 USD (after 1st AUg. 1996) Registration and accomodation are guaranteed, only after the fees are payed. Bank Transfer to: VAKIFLAR Bank, Anadolu University Bureau, Eskisehir TURKEY. Account no: 4000703 (USD account); 2000705 TL (account) For payment in Turkish Lira, the prevailing VAKIFBANK exchange rate at the time of payment shall be applied. (VAKIFLAR Bank and VAKFBANK are used for the same bank, the latter for the short name -typer's note-) HOTEL ACCOMODATION: The rates include bed and breakfast. Please include the room deposit with your Registration Fee. Hotel deposit per room is 20 USD. No reservation will be made without deposit. single (USD) double(USD) Anadolu Hotel 27 37 Buyuk Hotel 20 30 Emek Hotel 20 28 INFORMATION about PRESENTATIONS: Oral presentations : 15 min + 5 min discussion, Poster presentations: 75 cm x 120 height. R E G I S T R A T I O N F O R M- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I shall participate in the 2nd International Symposium on the Chemistry of Natural Compounds, 22-24 October 1996 in Eskisehir, TURKEY title......: Prof./Dr./Mr./Ms. First Name.: Surname : Institute : Address : Postal Code: City: Country: Tel : Fax : e-mail : I would like to present an oral (_) and/or a poster (_) entitled ..... ........................................................................ ........................................................................ ........................................................................ (Please fill out the attached abstract form) I will use ( ) overhead ( ) slide project I would like to have the following accomodation for ......... nights starting from ....... to ........ Please tick the hotel and room chose single double Anadolu Hotel ( ) ( ) Buyuk Hotel ( ) ( ) Emek Hotel ( ) ( ) The amount USD / TL ....... (Registration, Hotel Deposit) has been transferred to VAKIFLAR BANK, Anadolu Univ.Bureau, Eskisehir, Turkey. I would like to pay credit card ( ) Visa ( ) Master / EURO Card No: Amount: Expiry date: Date: Signature: - -'^typed by suleyman/ d31@....^'- - end - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From abby@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu Mon Apr 8 12:45:20 1996 Received: from mercury.aichem.arizona.edu for abby@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id MAA28751; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mercury.aichem.arizona.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00623; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:12:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 09:12:12 -0700 (MST) From: Abby Parrill To: CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net Subject: CCL:WWW developments In-Reply-To: <9604041151.ZM1328@coil.mdy.univie.ac.at> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I face a slightly different problem than Steven and Geoffrey. I am developing pages for undergraduate students, some of whom are very web-literate, and others who are completely computer-phobic. It is actually to the advantage of those computer-phobic students to simply download the appropriate java-applet with the data every time they want to view something. This approach, while time-consuming, will probably prove to be much less intimidating for these students. My experience during this last year, trying to encourage students to view and use the materials we have made available, has shown me that needing to configure a web browser with a new mime type and appropriate helper application is a discouragement to some of the computer-phobic students. This seems to be true even when I give them helper applications on disk with detailed instructions on how to configure it. The benefit of java applets will be to allow these students to slowly merge into the internet, rather than plunging in headfirst. I think a standard set of chemistry Java applets would be wonderful, but I would have to include the applet every time it is needed in order to provide an encouraging atmosphere to students. It might be useful to remember that the diversity of computer experience among chemists is fairly similar to the diversity I've found in my students. We may want to keep this in mind while publishing chemical information on the internet and allow viewers the alternative of the easy way or the faster way. __________________________________________________________ Abby Parrill Chemistry Department Artificial Intelligence in Chemistry Laboratory The University of Arizona abby@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu __________________________________________________________ From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Mon Apr 8 15:45:22 1996 Received: from bedrock.ccl.net for owner-chemistry@ccl.net by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id PAA01962; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VMSE.CSD.MU.EDU for 6031SCHRADER@vms.csd.mu.edu by bedrock.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id PAA01832; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vms.csd.mu.edu by vms.csd.mu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #14229) id <01I3AVWMBHTCHYUFSL@vms.csd.mu.edu> for chemistry@ccl.net; Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:27:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:27:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "David M. Schrader" <6031SCHRADER@vms.csd.mu.edu> Subject: Three-body clusters To: chemistry@ccl.net Message-id: <01I3AVWMBRGYHYUFSL@vms.csd.mu.edu> X-VMS-To: IN%"chemistry@ccl.net" X-VMS-Cc: 6031SCHRADER MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I am interested in coupled cluster expansions of wave functions, especially in three-body clusters. I am looking for some way to test a wave-function for the quality of its treatment of three-body clusters. Does anyone out there know of some parameter, measurable and/or calculable, which depends strongly on three-body clusters? =============================================================================== David M. Schrader Professor of Chemistry Department of Chemistry | Telephone numbers: Marquette University | (414) 288-3332 (office) P.O. Box 1881 | (414) 288-7066 (FAX) Milwaukee, WI 53201-1881, USA | (414) 288-3515 (secretary) Internet: 6031schrader@vms.csd.mu.edu =============================================================================== From tj@eecs.uic.edu Mon Apr 8 15:53:48 1996 Received: from mail.eecs.uic.edu for tj@eecs.uic.edu by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id OAA01748; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ernie.eecs.uic.edu (ernie.eecs.uic.edu [128.248.176.24]) by mail.eecs.uic.edu (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA27268 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:55:34 -0500 From: tj ODonnell Received: (tj@localhost) by ernie.eecs.uic.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id NAA07631 for chemistry@www.ccl.net; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:55:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199604081855.NAA07631@ernie.eecs.uic.edu> Subject: WWW developments To: chemistry@www.ccl.net (CCL) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:55:42 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Just some thoughts on Java and "standard" applets, especially regarding on-demand downloading vs. plug-ins,etc. Maybe we need some sort of smart cacheing of applets. Currently, if one requests a doc that is in your disk cache, the cache is accessed, even if the doc has changed. In other words, if the requested doc has the same URL as one already in cache, the cached version is used regardless of the changes to the "real" doc. I suppose the same sort of cache is (or could be) used with applets, but what we really want to know is whether the CONTENT of a requested applet is identical to the content of one in cache, regardless of the name (URL) of the applet. To do an exhaustive comparison, we'd have to get the remote applet anyway, so this is not a viable alternative. What I'm suggesting is some unique way of identifying an applet, independent of its URL. For example, a new type of HTML tag with a value like Chime-applet-v1.0b, or pdb-viewer-applet-v2.4, AND a smarter netscape which would handle this type of cacheing mechanism. Then, if an applet with the same tag exists in my cache, I use it, regardless of the URL source from which it is requested. TJ -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* * If you need a quote: http://www.eecs.uic.edu/~tj/quotes.html * *---------------------------------------------------------------------* | Dr. TJ O'Donnell > tj@eecs.uic.edu < http://www.eecs.uic.edu/~tj/ | *---------------------------------------------------------------------* From netsci@awod.com Mon Apr 8 16:45:22 1996 Received: from sumter.awod.com for netsci@awod.com by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id QAA02787; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:21:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [206.31.146.178] (chs0178.awod.com [206.31.146.178]) by sumter.awod.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA12383; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:20:30 -0400 X-Sender: arichon@awod.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:40:26 +0000 To: chemistry@www.ccl.net From: netsci@awod.com (Network Science) Subject: April Issue of NetSci Cc: netsci@awod.com The April issue of NetSci is on-line at: http://www.awod.com/netsci/ This month Michael Connolly ("Molecular Surfaces: A Review") and TJ O'Donnell ("Scientific and Artistic Uses of Molecular Surfaces") look at the evolution and use of molecular surfaces. On April 15, a summary of the Annual Survey of Trends in the Computational Chemistry Marketplace will be posted in NetSci. From shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu Mon Apr 8 18:45:22 1996 Received: from mailhub.cc.columbia.edu for shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id SAA04023; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from still3.chem.columbia.edu (still3.chem.columbia.edu [128.59.112.36]) by mailhub.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA20287; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by still3.chem.columbia.edu (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @mailhub.cc.columbia.edu:tj@eecs.uic.edu id AA16087; Mon, 8 Apr 96 17:47:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 17:47:35 -0400 From: shenkin@still3.chem.columbia.edu (Peter Shenkin) Message-Id: <9604082147.AA16087@still3.chem.columbia.edu> To: chemistry@www.ccl.net (CCL), tj ODonnell Subject: Re: CCL:WWW developments > From chemistry-request@www.ccl.net Mon Apr 8 16:50:53 1996 > Currently, if one requests a doc that is in your disk cache, > the cache is accessed, even if the doc has changed. ... No. This depends on how your browser is set up. In Netscape, under Network Preferences, you can set the "Cache" preferences to "Verify Document" either "Once per Session", "Every Time" or "Never". I believe you are describing the "Never" behavior; changing this to "Every Time" should do what you want. Though I'm not an expert on this, a quick perusal of the Netscape handbook seems to bear out this interpretation. -P. **************** In Memoriam, Minnie Pearl, 1913-1996, RIP ***************** *** Peter S. Shenkin, Box 768 Havemeyer Hall, Chemistry, Columbia Univ., *** *** NY, NY 10027; shenkin@columbia.edu; (212)854-5143; FAX: 678-9039 *** *** MacroModel home page: www.cc.columbia.edu/cu/chemistry/mmod/mmod.html*** From chatt@tniri.go.jp Mon Apr 8 20:45:24 1996 Received: from ripspost.aist.go.jp for chatt@tniri.go.jp by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id UAA04817; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tnhost.tniri.go.jp ([150.82.48.1]) by ripspost.aist.go.jp (8.7.5/3.4W4) with SMTP id JAA29077 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:42:12 +0900 (JST) Received: by tnhost.tniri.go.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-tniri.MASTER) id AA10436; Tue, 9 Apr 96 09:40:41 JST Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 09:40:41 JST From: chatt@tniri.go.jp (Abhijit Chatterjee) Message-Id: <9604090040.AA10436@tnhost.tniri.go.jp> To: chemistry@www.ccl.net Subject: INFORMATION I like to have information about lattice minimisation technique (STATIC). Any information regarding this will be gratefully acknowledged Regards A. Chatterjee email : chatt@tniri.go.jp From BAELL@mel.dah.csiro.au Mon Apr 8 22:45:24 1996 Received: from dahsun.mel.dah.csiro.au for BAELL@mel.dah.csiro.au by www.ccl.net (8.7.1/950822.1) id WAA05579; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mhs.mel.dah.csiro.au (mhs.mel.dah.CSIRO.AU [192.94.209.40]) by dahsun.mel.dah.csiro.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA25468 for <@dahsun.mel.dah.csiro.au:chemistry@www.ccl.net>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:12:31 +1000 Message-Id: <199604090212.MAA25468@dahsun.mel.dah.csiro.au> From: BAELL@mel.dah.csiro.au (Jonathan Baell) To: chemistry@www.ccl.net (chemistry) Subject: lepicidin coords Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 12:09 Dear Netters I'm after the coordinates for lepicidin {Antibiotic A 83543A [139404-49-2]}, or its relatives, Antibiotics A 83543B [131929-61-8], A 83543C [131929-62-9] and A 8354D [131929-63-0]. Other names: spinosyn A and spinosyn D Structural information I believe is reported in the following reference: AN: 118:76674. TI: "Discovery, isolation, and structure elucidation of a family of structurally unique, fermentation-derived tetracyclic macrolides" AU: Kirst, Herbert A.; Michel, Karl H.; Mynderase, John S.; Chio, Eddie H.; Yao, Raymond C.; Nakasukasa, Walter M.; Boeck, LaVerne D.; Occlowitz, John L.; Paschal, Jonathon W.; et al.(!!) CS: Lilly Res. Lab., Eli Lilly Co., Indianapolis, IN, 46285, USA. SO: ACS Symp. Ser. (1992), 504 (Synth. Chem. Agrochem. III), 214-225. Any data would be greatly appreciated. I use Tripos software, so most standard formats (pdb etc) are fine. Jonathan Baell