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Dear Comp. Chemists,
 I would just like to inform the network of RasMol creators because I have not
yet done that in public. So for the people who are not aware of what goes with
RasMols, here is the namelist history, which I failed to describe in my
versions README file:

-RasMol has been created by Roger Sayle. Most know that!
-the original NextStep port was done by Andreas Windemuth,
after whose code, the 2.1 code was created. His files are somewhere on the
NeXT archives for one thing.Btw, I am not sure that the functionalities are
the same as I have never played with the 3.x version. 
 
Most probably people who hit the Info button, or those who look at the
files, before compiling them, have seen Andreas copyright. I should apologize
to Andreas because although i have numerously mentioned him to the CCL 
individuals who have written to me, I have not done that in the README file.

Sorry for the bandwidth.

Ioannis

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From qftramos@uscmail.usc.esMon Oct 21 16:21:00 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:09:18 +0100 (MET)
From: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
To: Lista computacional <CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net>
Subject: CCL:Latex


Dear netters:

	How can I get a version of Latex for a Indy by SGI.

	Thanks,

	Antonio Fernandez Ramos
	Departamento de quimica Fisica
	Facultade de Quimica
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From hinsen@ibs.ibs.frMon Oct 21 16:21:05 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 11:49:49 +0100
From: Konrad Hinsen <hinsen@ibs.ibs.fr>
To: qftramos@uscmail.usc.es
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

> 	How can I get a version of Latex for a Indy by SGI.

The standard TeX distribution for Unix will work for any SGI system.
You can get it via the CTAN network of FTP and Web servers.
A good starting point is http://jasper.ora.com/.
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From M.E.Parker@surrey.ac.ukMon Oct 21 16:21:08 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 11:53:04 +0100 (BST)
From: Dr Malcolm E Parker <M.E.Parker@surrey.ac.uk>
To: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

> 
> 	How can I get a version of Latex for a Indy by SGI.

  ftp to :-

       ftp://ftp.dl.ac.uk/disco_support/sgi/dist_bin/

  and take it from there.

 -Mal 
From Frederic.Bouyer@der.edfgdf.frMon Oct 21 16:21:12 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:51:56 +0100
From: Frederic Bouyer <Frederic.Bouyer@der.edfgdf.fr>
To: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

Hello Antonio,

I am highly interested in sharing with you (if possible) replies you could
receive. I would like to use Latex on my Indy too.

Regards,

Frederic Bouyer

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From basil@alchemy.yonsei.ac.krMon Oct 21 16:21:15 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:03:06 +0900
From: Ahn Sang-Ho <basil@alchemy.yonsei.ac.kr>
To: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

Dear Mr. Antonio Fernandez Ramos,

Well, Sorry that I cannot give you a direct help, I mean I don't have LaTex
program.
But I have a teTex and know where you acn find a download site .
" ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/comp/tex/teTeX" is the site
which I know and 
I think that you can get a teTex s/w from there..
It has a teTex package which can be installed on various platform such as
Solaris and SGI...
However, I hope I can be a small help to you...

                       Sang-Ho Ahn 
At 10:09 AM 96/09/30 +0100, you wrote:
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>Dear netters:
>
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>
>	Thanks,
>
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From mhead@indigo18.carb.nist.govMon Oct 21 16:21:18 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 09:28:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Dr. Martha Head" <mhead@indigo18.carb.nist.gov>
To: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

Dr. Ramos:

The best LaTeX distribution I have found is
Thomas Esser's teTeX distribution.  It comes
complete with binaries for many useful tools.
In addition, I have never had a problem with
fonts with this distribution.

Two places to look for teTeX:
The primary site is:
	ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/comp/tex/teTeX

Also, you might look at the (La)TeX navigator
at this URL:
	http://www.loria.fr/tex/english/index.html
A search for teTeX in the CTAN archive will get
you multiple listings of tar files for different
operating systems, including IRIX5.3.

Marti Head


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From kessi@psizi1.psi.chMon Oct 21 16:21:24 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:33:05 +0200
From: Alain Kessi <kessi@psizi1.psi.ch>
To: qftramos@uscmail.usc.es
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

>	How can I get a version of Latex for a Indy by SGI.

All LaTeX and TeX related things can be found on CTAN (ftp.tex.ac.uk or
ftp.dante.de). If you already have TeX, you'll find LaTeX in

tex-archive/macros/latex/base

If you don't have TeX yet, get the teTeX distribution from

tex-archive/systems/unix/teTeX

You will find precompiled versions for some systems. If you don't find
binaries for the Indy (I don't see any), you can just get the source from

tex-archive/systems/unix/teTeX/distrib/sources/teTeX-src-0.4pl2.tar.gz

There is a convenient Makefile included.

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From frits@chemde4.leidenuniv.nlMon Oct 21 16:21:32 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 96 16:49:26 +0200
From: Frits Daalmans <frits@chemde4.leidenuniv.nl>
To: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
Cc: frits@chemde4.leidenuniv.nl
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

You can get it from any of the so-called "CTAN" ftp sites;
Comprehensive Tex archive network or something like that.
there is one in Germany:
ftp.dante.de , directory pub/tex-archive

you have to either get  the UNIX version and compile it yourself
(I did this and it worked on a SGI Indy, IRIX v5.3)
then, you also need xdvi (previewer) and dvipsk (dvi-to-PostScript)
It cannot be called an official TeX though, since it didn't pass the 
strict tests that are included.. something wrong with floating point
rounding I believe.. It produces fine text though.

or, maybe you can get a binary version from somewhere..
You can have mine if you trust me. But it may be more educational (if you
have the time) to compile it yourself, or more safe (if you can find it)
to obtain a binary from a well-known ftp site.

The process goes like this, if I remember well (I probably don't remember well):
- compile the web2c compiler(s)
- compile tangle and weave, the web->TeX and web->Pascal compilers
- compile TEX.WEB to TeX and C; same for METAFONT
- compile the resulting C programs
- install virtex and initex, virmf and inimf
- compile the format files for plain TeX and LaTeX
- test if everything works
- compile the kpathsea library (for finding and automatically generating fonts)
- compile a basic set of font templates with METAFONT
- test if everything still works
- compile and install xdvi, dvips, dvilj and others you need
- (optional) compile a basic set of fonts; otherwise, the program does it
when you latex your first file (which can take a while).

This sounds difficult, but reading the README files, editing the configuration
files, and just typing one "make" got me already very far into the process.

Good luck,
Frits Daalmans

Frits Daalmans
OIO Conformational Analysis
Gorlaeus Laboratoria
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From chd00@cc.keele.ac.ukMon Oct 21 16:21:36 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:14:13 +0100 (BST)
From: Ratty <chd00@cc.keele.ac.uk>
To: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

try looking for a "vanilla" LaTeX together with an xdvi program for
previewing the dvi files or ghostview on converting the dvi files you
produce to ps. All of these packages are quite widely accessable via the
Internet.

Search for 
LaTeX:
DVIPS:
XDVI:
GHOSTVIEW:

these should all work on an SGI since motif windows is a super set of
x-windows.

ENJOY
From beroza@scripps.eduMon Oct 21 16:21:41 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:38:18 -0700
From: Paul Beroza <beroza@scripps.edu>
To: qftramos@uscmail.usc.es
Subject: latex

> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:09:18 +0100 (MET)
> From: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@usc.es>
> To: Lista computacional <CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net>
> Subject: CCL:Latex

> How can I get a version of Latex for a Indy by SGI.

I believe the teTeX distribution runs on SGIs.

The new distribution is available from
  sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
  /pub/comp/tex/teTeX/distrib

 ...and mirror sites.   I am quite happy with it.

Paul

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From gedeck@organik.uni-erlangen.deMon Oct 21 16:21:44 1996
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 10:39:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: Peter Gedeck <gedeck@organik.uni-erlangen.de>
To: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@uscmail.usc.es>
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Antonio Fernandez Ramos wrote:
> Dear netters:
> 
> 	How can I get a version of Latex for a Indy by SGI.

Hello,

you can find an excellent TeX package for almost any machine on 

ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/distrib/

This package is called teTeX and contains everything you need to run 
LaTeX on your machine, including viewers, fonts, drivers and 
useful LaTeX packages. Precompiled binaries for IRIX 5.3 and IRIX 6.2 are 
available. 

Installation of the whole package is really simple.

Regards,

Peter


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From wieland@btm2d1.mat.uni-bayreuth.deMon Oct 21 16:21:48 1996
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 96 10:28:22 +0200
From: wieland@btm2d1.mat.uni-bayreuth.de
To: qftramos@uscmail.usc.es
Subject: Re: CCL:Latex

Dear Antonio,

a rather useful LaTeX package for UNIX workstations is teTeX. It comes with
sources. You just have to generate the makefile and compiler the package
(a C compiler is required only).
An archie search gave the following results (near to you):

Host ftp.ulpgc.es

    Location: /pub/big-mirr/one/sunsite/apps/tex
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x       8192  Sep  4 01:22  teTeX

Host asterix.fi.upm.es

    Location: /pub/linux/apps/tex
      DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x        512  Sep 17 23:33  teTeX

You may also refers to CTAN servers like ftp.dante.de

Best regards,

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From sz1296@rrze.uni-erlangen.deMon Oct 21 16:21:53 1996
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:19:48 +0200
From: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Reichenb=E4cher?= <sz1296@rrze.uni-erlangen.de>
To: qftramos@uscmail.usc.es
Cc: Ralph Puchta <sz2191@rzmail.uni-erlangen.de>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: CCL:Latex]

Antonio Fernandez Ramos wrote:
> 
> Subject: CCL:Latex
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:09:18 +0100 (MET)
> From: Antonio Fernandez Ramos <qftramos@usc.es>
> To: Lista computacional <CHEMISTRY@www.ccl.net>
> 
> Dear netters:
> 
>         How can I get a version of Latex for a Indy by SGI.
> 
>         Thanks,
> 
>         Antonio Fernandez Ramos
>         Departamento de quimica Fisica
>         Facultade de Quimica
>         Avda des Ciencias s/n
>         Santiago de Compostela (SPAIN)

I assume you want a version of TeX (without which you won't be able to
run LaTeX, which is an add-on to TeX).
A server devoted to TeX is the following German server:

ftp.dante.de

Probably they also have binaries for Indys.



Alternatively, you might to consult archie:

   xarchie

Or, if there's no xarchie available:

   telnet archie.rediris.es

Using archie, you can search for keywords such as "tex" or "latex"



Another possibility is to use ftpsearch:

Point your favorite www-browser to

   http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no


-------------------------------------

hello antonio,
i saw your post on ccl regarding the indy version of latex.
can you please forward me whatever response you received on this issue?
many thanks!!                                                 chen



Hello Antonio,


Latex for SGI can be obtained from the package " teTex ". Have a look at 
"http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction " where you will find more explanation.
It is very easy to install, just run the menu driven installprogram.

Good luck


Raf


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From rochus@felix.anorg.chemie.tu-muenchen.de  Mon Oct 21 12:16:17 1996
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From: "Rochus Schmid" <rochus@felix.anorg.chemie.tu-muenchen.de>
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Dear netters:

Sorry for the delay. Because of further troubles in compiling deMon on the
alpha this "summary" comes late.

On Sep 27,  5:56pm, Rochus Schmid wrote:
> Subject: f77 comp. on DEC alpha
> Dear Netters,
>
> We currently have some problems to compile a DFT-programm (deMon 1.1) on our
> new DEC Alpha.
>
> We didn't have any trouble to compile it and get it running on our SGI
(R4400).
> It works and produces correct values.
> However, we don't have a lot of experience with Alphas. So after solving some
> minor compiling and linking problems we have an executable now. After reading
> the input it stops while building the grids with the error message:
>
> unaligned access .....
>
> I have the feeling (however, I'm possibly completely wrong, pleas e forgive
me
> in that case ;-) that the problem of the 64 bit architecture and the code is
> not "suited" to that, since the same thing is running fine on the SGI.
>
> Can anyone of you give us a hint:
>
> 	- did anyone build deMon on an Alpha?
>
> 	- is this a common problem when porting to Alphas (maybe this is not
> 			   specific to our code)?
>
> 	- what kind of constructions can be the origin of the problem?
> 	  Is there something specific to check in the code?
>
> Any help is very much appreciated.
> Thank you very much.
>
> Best greetings from Munich,
>
> Rochus
>
>-- End of excerpt from Rochus Schmid


Many thanx to all who answered.

All replies suggested to find the compilier flag which forces all common blocks
to be aligned. On the alpha, this flag is:

-align dcommons

This helped :-)
However, other problems, more specific to the deMon source code appeared and
are partly unsolved yet :-(

Greetings,

Rochus

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Subject: CCL: SUMMARY: Some Molecular File Format Descriptions
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This is a summary of info I had previously and responses I got
with respect to my inquiry on molecular file formats.
The original message said:

> I have searched the CCL archives and several other web search
> engines/sites, but I could not find that anybody has compiled 
> a list of the currently available molecular structure file
> formats, along with their respective format description.
> I know about the PDB, XYZ, MacroModel and some other formats,
> but not many. By no means my search was exhaustive, so if someone
> knows of good pointers related to this I will appreciate
> your input. I will summarize to the list the info I receive.
> Greetings and TIA for the help/hints/ideas/pointers.

Most of the people indicated BABEL(++), as a source of info on file
formats. I use it (almost) everyday, and can testify it is a fine
program, but what I was looking were *descriptions* of the formats,
in order to find out why some file I had were broken. Thanks to
Pat Walters and Math Stahl for a good program.
(++) BABEL: http://mercury.aichem.arizona.edu/babel.html

Here goes the info:

[1] I had gathered the info below about packages and file formats:

(a) Macromodel and related info:
      http://www.columbia.edu/cu/chemistry/mmod/mmod.html
    also the manual that accompanies the package describes
    the formata in extenso.

(b) PDB format and related info:
      http://pdb.pdb.bnl.gov
    specially:"The Protein Data Bank Contents Guide: Atomic Coordinate"
      http://pdb.pdb.bnl.gov/Format.doc/Format_Home.html

(c) XMol general info (Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc.)
      http://www.msc.edu/msc/docs/xmol/XMol.html
    and the man page for XYZ (part of XMol)

XYZ(5MSC)		   Unix	Programmer's Manual		     XYZ(5MSC)
NAME
     XYZ - Cartesian molecular model file format
COPYRIGHT
     @Copyright	1991  Research	Equipment  Inc.	 dba  Minnesota	 Supercomputer
     Center
RESTRICTED RIGHTS LEGEND
     Use, duplication, or disclosure of	this software and its documentation by
     the  Government  is subject to restrictions as set	forth in subdivision {
     (b) (3) (ii) } of the Rights in  Technical	 Data  and  Computer  Software
     clause at 52.227-7013.
DESCRIPTION
     XYZ datafiles specify molecular geometries	using a	 Cartesian  coordinate
     system.  This simple, stripped-down, ASCII-readable format	is intended to
     serve as a	"transition" format for	the XMol series	of applications.   For
     example,  suppose	a  molecular datafile was in a format not supported by
     XMol.  In order to	read the data into  XMol,  it  would  be  possible  to
     modify  the  datafile, perhaps by creating	a shell	script,	so that	it fit
     the relatively lenient requirements  of  the  XYZ	format	specification.
     Once  data	 is in XYZ format, it may be examined by XMol, or converted to
     yet another format.
     The XYZ format supports multi-step	datasets.  Each	step is	represented by
     a two-line	"header," followed by one line for each	atom.
     The first line of a step's	header is the number of	atoms  in  that	 step.
     This  integer  may	 be preceded by	whitespace; anything on	the line after
     the integer is ignored.  The second line of the header leaves room	for  a
     descriptive  string.   This  line	may  be	 blank,	or it may contain some
     information pertinent to that particular step, but	it must	exist, and  it
     must be just one line long.
     Each line of text describing a single atom	must  contain  at  least  four
     fields of information, separated by whitespace:  the atom's type (a short
     string of alphanumeric characters), and  its  x-,	y-,  and  z-positions.
     Optionally,  extra	 fields	 may be	used to	specify	a charge for the atom,
     and/or a vector associated	with the atom.	If an input line contains five
     or	 eight	fields,	 the  fifth field is interpreted as the	atom's charge;
     otherwise,	a charge of zero is assumed.  If an input line contains	 seven
     or	 eight fields, the last	three fields are interpreted as	the components
     of	a vector.  These components should be specified	in angstroms.
     Note that the XYZ format doesn't contain connectivity information.	  This
     intentional  omission  allows  for	greater	flexibility:  to create	an XYZ
     file, you don't need to know where	a molecule's bonds are;	you just  need
     to	 know  where  its  atoms  are.	 Connectivity information is generated
     automatically  for	 XYZ  files  as	 they  are  read   into	  XMol-related
     applications.   Briefly,  if  the distance	between	two atoms is less than
     the sum of	their covalent radii, they are considered bonded.
FILES
     /usr/local/etc/xmol/examples/*
	  sample datafiles
     /usr/local/etc/xmol/xyz.types
	  table	of atom	types supported	by XYZ format
     /usr/local/etc/xmol/xyz.cnvt
	  conversion table for XYZ format
SEE ALSO
     xmol(1MSC)
AUTHORS
     Carolyn Wasikowski
     Stefan Klemm
				 27 Apr	1993

(d) AMBER related info:
      http://www.amber.ucsf.edu/amber/amber.html
    and the AMBER file specifications:
      http://www.amber.ucsf.edu/amber/formats.html

(e) CSD info in general at CCDC
      http://csdvx2.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/
    also the documentation that comes with the CD-ROM distribution.

(f) SPARTAN (from wavefuntion): Uses a cartesian coordinate representation
    similar to the one used for XYZ files in its output file, minus
    the charge (listed separately).

[2] From the responses I got the following pointers

(a) MDL formats (there is a PDF file with lots of info here)
      http://www.mdli.com/prod/fileformats.html

(b) and another PDB info site
      http://www.mi.uni-erlangen.de/~dosche/casihp.htm

Thank you to all who responded (list below in no particular
order, and I hope I am not missing anyone). Sorry I didn't
get to answer to each one individually:

Soaring Bear    <bear@ellington.pharm.arizona.edu>
Pat Walters     <pwalters@portal.vpharm.com>
Jonathan Baell  <J.Baell@chem.csiro.au>
Dale Braden     <genghis@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Henry Chermette <CHERM@frcpn11.in2p3.fr>
Stefan Grzybek  <grzybek@athena.chemie.uni-erlangen.de>
Bill Ross       <ross@cgl.ucsf.EDU>
Ralph Puchta    <Puchta@GWUP.org>
Willie Cui      <microsim@nis.net>
Jasna Klicic    <jasna@chem.columbia.edu>

Greetings.

P.S. Below it is a list of file formats babel undertands and
     converts.

Babel 1.5 BETA -- Sep 29 1996 -- 22:48:48
for menus type -- babel -m

Usage is : 
babel [-v] -i<input-type> <name> -o<output-type> <name> "<keywords>"


Currently supported input types

	alc -- Alchemy file
	prep -- AMBER PREP file
	bs -- Ball and Stick file
	bgf -- MSI BGF file
	car -- Biosym .CAR file
	boog -- Boogie file
	caccrt -- Cacao Cartesian file
	cadpac -- Cambridge CADPAC file
	charmm -- CHARMm file
	c3d1 -- Chem3D Cartesian 1 file
	c3d2 -- Chem3D Cartesian 2 file
	cssr -- CSD CSSR file
	fdat -- CSD FDAT file
	gstat -- CSD GSTAT file
	dock -- Dock Database file
	dpdb -- Dock PDB file
	feat -- Feature file
	fract -- Free Form Fractional file
	gamout -- GAMESS Output file
	gzmat -- Gaussian Z-Matrix file
	gauout -- Gaussian 92 Output file
	g94 -- Gaussian 94 Output file
	hin -- Hyperchem HIN file
	sdf -- MDL Isis SDF file
	m3d -- M3D file
	macmol -- Mac Molecule file
	macmod -- Macromodel file
	micro -- Micro World file
	mm2in -- MM2 Input file
	mm2out -- MM2 Output file
	mm3 -- MM3 file
	mmads -- MMADS file
	mdl -- MDL MOLfile file
	molen -- MOLIN file
	mopcrt -- Mopac Cartesian file
	mopint -- Mopac Internal file
	mopout -- Mopac Output file
	pcmod -- PC Model file
	pdb -- PDB file
	psin -- PS-GVB Input file
	psout -- PS-GVB Output file
	msf -- Quanta MSF file
	schakal -- Schakal file
	shelx -- ShelX file
	smiles -- SMILES file
	spar -- Spartan file
	semi -- Spartan Semi-Empirical file
	spmm -- Spartan Mol. Mechanics file
	mol -- Sybyl Mol file
	mol2 -- Sybyl Mol2 file
	wiz -- Conjure file
	unixyz -- UniChem XYZ file
	xyz -- XYZ file
	xed -- XED file

Currently supported output types

	diag -- DIAGNOTICS file
	alc -- Alchemy file
	bs -- Ball and Stick file
	bgf -- BGF file
	bmin -- Batchmin Command file
	caccrt -- Cacao Cartesian file
	cacint -- Cacao Internal file
	cache -- CAChe MolStruct file
	c3d1 -- Chem3D Cartesian 1 file
	c3d2 -- Chem3D Cartesian 2 file
	cdct -- ChemDraw Conn. Table file
	dock -- Dock Database file
	wiz -- Wizard file
	contmp -- Conjure Template file
	cssr -- CSD CSSR file
	dpdb -- Dock PDB file
	feat -- Feature file
	fhz -- Fenske-Hall ZMatrix file
	gamin -- Gamess Input file
	gcart -- Gaussian Cartesian file
	gzmat -- Gaussian Z-matrix file
	gotmp -- Gaussian Z-matrix tmplt file
	hin -- Hyperchem HIN file
	icon -- Icon 8 file
	idatm -- IDATM file
	sdf -- MDL Isis SDF file
	m3d -- M3D file
	macmol -- Mac Molecule file
	macmod -- Macromodel file
	micro -- Micro World file
	mm2in -- MM2 Input file
	mm2out -- MM2 Ouput file
	mm3 -- MM3 file
	mmads -- MMADS file
	mdl -- MDL Molfile file
	miv -- MolInventor file
	mopcrt -- Mopac Cartesian file
	mopint -- Mopac Internal file
	csr -- MSI Quanta CSR file
	pcmod -- PC Model file
	pdb -- PDB file
	psz -- PS-GVB Z-Matrix file
	psc -- PS-GVB Cartesian file
	report -- Report file
	smiles -- SMILES file
	spar -- Spartan file
	mol -- Sybyl Mol file
	mol2 -- Sybyl Mol2 file
	maccs -- MDL Maccs file
	torlist -- Torsion List file
	unixyz -- UniChem XYZ file
	xyz -- XYZ file
	xed -- XED file
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At 02:16 PM 10/17/96 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear netters,
>
>I'm looking for a formula for calculating the IR intensities
>from the transition dipole moments of organic molecules. Until 
>now I've calculated the dipole moments of the ground state and 
>at the maximum point of the vibration.
>
>Perhaps you can help me with this problem (with comments or
>literature).
>
>Yours sincerly
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>
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Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:05:34 +0000
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>Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:54:10
>To: Dirk Hoevener <dirkh@Topas.Chemie.Uni-Dortmund.de>
>From: Jeffrey J Ayres <JeffAyres@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Re: CCL:IR-intensities and dipole moment
>
>At 02:16 PM 10/17/96 +0000, you wrote:
>>Dear netters,
>>
>>I'm looking for a formula for calculating the IR intensities
>>from the transition dipole moments of organic molecules. Until 
>You seem confused at this point.  It appears you are seeking the dipole
moments from the IR intensities.  Since in the next sentence you stated you
were able to calculate two dipole moments, the assumption was made that you
want the dipole moments, not the IR intensities.
>>now I've calculated the dipole moments of the ground state and 
>>at the maximum point of the vibration.
>>
>>Perhaps you can help me with this problem (with comments or
>>literature).
>>
>>Yours sincerly
>>              Dirk Hoevener
>>
>>-- 
>>Dirk Hoevener
>>E-Mail: dirkh@topas.chemie.uni-dortmund.de
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>>
>I'm not sure if you are basing your calculations on empirical results or
theory.   
>P.W. Atkins Physical Chemistry 2nd edition (Freeman, New York) 1982
pp604-608 describes a method for calculating the transition moment from the
integrated absorbtion coefficient.  The method described requires
experimental measurement of the 
>absorbtion coefficient.
>An equation relating the dipole moment to the precise wavefunctions,
wavefunction of the initial state and wavefunction of the final state is
also refered to on page 607. 
>


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Dear members,

sorry for this off-topic mail, but I think there are several 
people whom this problem could be quite important!!!!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:53:03 +0200 (MET DST)
From: hj@globecom.net
To: alpha-osf-managers@ornl.gov
Subject: Urgent !! Serious Security Bug.... (fwd)

I forward this e-mail from the Bugtraq mailing-list. 

This bug doesn't only crash/reboot linux as the text says, but the
following OS's too:

       1) Reboot: OSF/1 3.2C, Solaris2.4 x86
       2) Ignored: *BSD, SunOS4.1.x, IOS, AIX3.2.5, VMS e Solaris 2.4
          Sparc, Irix.
       3) Respond: M$ e OS/2
       4) Crash: Linux, AIX4, OSF  <= 3.2C and AIX3.2.5 on Token-ring.

If you need more info, check out the Archives of Bugtraq at the following
URL: http://geek-girl.com/bugtraq/

p.s. The patch that the text mentions IS NOT included, dince it is a Linux
patch. d.s.

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Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:43:39 +0200
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Subject: Urgent !! Serious Linux Security Bug....

Hi,

        Today we saw an email from Linus Torvalds advising of a problem
with Linux and ping.  Basically you can reboot a linux box remotely if
some scenario's are right.  From what we can tell and this has all been
verified is: If anyone in the world with a Windows 95 machine can ping
your Linux box they can potentially reboot that machine.. Hence a serious
denial of service OR loss of data.

Scenario:

Win95 user types 'ping -l 65510 host.running.linux'.

Result:

That machine reboots OR freezes.

On the Linux machine, you need to be running kernel version 2.0.7(It's
the lowest we run) up to version 2.0.20(The highest we're running).

With ping you can use value 65508-65527.

We have extensively tested both of these.

I'm sure there are thousands of Linux systems that could be affected.

There IS a BETA patch out and it DOES work.. If you don't have that
patch code as of yet, it's attached.

Cyaz

Jake The Prince

PS..... Thanks to whoever found this serious bug...
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Here is the final programme and registration information.

THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF CHEMISTRY
INDUSTRIAL INORGANIC CHEMICALS GROUP


A ONE DAY SYMPOSIUM ON
COMPUTER MODELLING OF INORGANIC CHEMICALS

The Scientific Societies Lecture Theatre, London
Wednesday 18 December 1996


The meeting with invited speakers from academia and industry will focus o=
n
how computer modelling can contribute to the synthesis, characterisation
and manufacture of key inorganic chemicals.=20

COMPUTER MODELLING OF INORGANIC CHEMICALS



Wednesday 18 December 1996

The Scientific Societies Lecture Theatre
New Burlington Place
Off Regent Street
London. W1X 1AB.


SYMPOSIUM PROGRAMME


	09.00 - 09.30 		Registration and coffee
	09.30 - 09.35 		Welcome: Dr Philip Mitchell, University of Reading
	09.35 - 10.30 		Professor Richard Catlow, Royal Institution
     			Modelling ceramics and ionic conductors
	10.30 - 11.00 		Dr Marina Taylor, University of Reading
       			Modelling biominerals and bone formation
	11.00 - 11.30 		Dr Dewi Lewis,  University of Cambridge
        		Modelling the templated synthesis of microporous materials
	11.30 - 12.00 		Dr Mark Biggs, University of Surrey
       			Molecular modelling of microporous carbons and =20
			fluids within them

	12.00 - 13.00 		LUNCH

	13.00 - 13.45 		Dr Elizabeth Colbourn, Oxford Materials Ltd
	               Modelling defects and reactions at inorganic surfaces
	13.45 - 14.30 		Dr Steve Parker, University of Bath
        		Surface morphology and crystallisation
	14:30 - 15:00		Mr. Phillip Sinclair, Royal Institution=20
			Acid catalysed reactivity in zeolites

	15.00 - 15.30 		TEA

	15.30 - 16.00 		Dr Philip Mitchell, University of Reading
        		Density functional theory calculations on catalysts
	16.00 - 16.30 		Dr Elaine Moore, Open University
        		NMR of silanediols on surfaces

	16.30 - 17.00 		Dr. S. Ramdas, Imperial College
			Who wants molecular modelling of inorganic materials?
			and General Discussion



REGISTRATION FORM

COMPUTER MODELLING OF INORGANIC CHEMICALS


Wednesday 18 December 1996
Scientific Societies Lecture Theatre
New Burlington Place
Off Regent Street
London. W1X 1AB.

Please complete in BLOCK CAPITALS and return with the FULL FEE to :

Dr. Philip C.H. Mitchell, Department of Chemistry, University of Reading,
Reading. RG6 6AD.=20



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Please tick box and make cheque payable to "Modelling Conference".

(	RSC Member		=9C40.00

(	Non-Member		=9C50.00

(	Students, retired and non-employed RSC Members 		=9C25.00

Deadline for receipt of applications is 15 November 1996
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The registration fee covers attendance at the meeting and accompanying
documentation, morning coffee, buffet lunch and afternoon tea.  Tickets
will not be issued but if a receipt is required please enclose a stamped
addressed envelope.  Please note that t he Group is not registered for
value added tax and VAT invoices therefore cannot be issued.=20

Dr. Philip C.H. Mitchell Department of Chemistry, University of Reading,
Tel : 44 (0) 118 931 6344 Whiteknights, Reading, Fax: 44 (0) 118 931 1610
RG6 6AD. UK Email:  scsmitch@reading.ac.uk, or P.C.H.
Mitchell@reading.ac.uk


Dr Philip C.H. Mitchell
Mail:  Department of Chemistry, University of Reading,=20
       Whiteknights, Reading RG6 6AD, UK
Email(JANET): scsmitch@reading.ac.uk
	or: P.C.H.Mitchell@reading.ac.uk
Voice: +44 (0) 118 931 6344 (direct line) [PLEASE NOTE NEW NUMBER!]
Fax:   +44 (0) 118 931 1610




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Please excuse multiple postings - you may be on more than one of my lists.

Hello All (fellow biocomputing educators) -

The paper deadline is long past and the hotel reservation assurance is 
now on a space available basis but PSB still wants your participation:

               Pacific Symposium on Biocomputing

       Monday, January 6 through Thursday, January 9, 1997
              Ritz Carlton Kapalua, Maui, Hawaii

PSB '97 is an international, multidisciplinary conference for the
presentation and discussion of current research in the theory and
application of computational methods in problems of biological 
significance.

Poster Abstracts will be accepted until November 1, 1996.
However, authors of abstracts must be registered and paid 
by the same day in order to be included in the abstract booklet.
Submit abstracts directly to Russ Altman (altman@camis.stanford.edu).

Please consult the PSB web site for further information:

   http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/psb

Our special discussion section on BIOCOMPUTING EDUCATION is still
soliciting participation as well.  Send me a copy of your abstract as well
as Dr. Altman, if it's in the area of education, and you still have time 
to get an abstract in.  Otherwise, if you just want to help out in the 
discussion, please contact me for more details and a plan of attack.

Big thank you's are noted to those individuals that have already 
submitted abstracts to and volunteered to assist in our Education section:

	Bruno Gaeta, Tim Littlejohn and colleagues at
	The Australian National Genomic Information Service:

	"Teaching practical biocomputing to biologists in Australia"
	"Web based bioinformatics services in Australia - WebANGIS"

	Christopher Dubay and William Hersh at
	Oregon Health Sciences University:

	"Implementing a curriculum for a Masters of Science program in 
	Medical Informatics that develops biomedical computing skills"

	and my Co-Director for the PSB '97 Education Section,
	Susan J. Johns of the VADMS Center at
	Washington State University:

	"Biocomputing instruction on a shoe string"

We are still hoping to arrange for Dr. Mitchell Sogin of the Woods Hole
Marine Biological Laboratory to give our section's introductory talk on
how he has developed, organized, and implemented his (along with Dr. Dan
Davison of the Univerity of Houston) highly successful and long-running
"Workshop on Molecular Evolution" although the certainty of this is
contigent on funding availability.  Regardless of whether Dr. Sogin can
participate or not, we are confident that the PSB 1997 Education section 
will again be a success and are looking forward to working with you all 
in Hawaii this January.

						- Steve

                              Steven M. Thompson
            Consultant in Molecular Genetics and Sequence Analysis
Center for Visualization, Analysis & Design in the Molecular Sciences (VADMS)
           Washington State University, Pullman, WA 99164-4660, USA
                AT&Tnet:  (509) 335-3179  FAX:  (509) 335-9688
                  INTERnet:  thompson@ribozyme.vadms.wsu.edu


