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Dear CCL'ers

We are studying solvatation / resolvatation processes in LiClO4/CH3CN 
solution by the Monte Carlo method. We are going to extend our studying
of the systems containing water, DMFA, DMSO, Na+, K+, Mg++, I- and other 
ions and solvents and to apply the MD method as well. 

Now I am looking for any data, programmes, methods, suggestions, references
and people, who deal with the similar systems or are interested in this 
subject. I have been revising the Carl Corporation Database and CCL archive 
recently.

I believe that our relations would benefit each of us. Contact me please
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Dear all,

I need to visualize vibration modes computed with the ADF program. Is there
available any software that can (at least) read ADF output and write
cartesian coordinates of the molecules deformed along the modes? I am aware
of the MSI stuff, but it costs more than I am able to pay presently.

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Hi!

If you are interested in Bioinformatics at the protein/DNA sequence level and OO
technology I would highly appreciate if you could have a look at the questions
below!

I'll summarise - of course (-:

=============================================================================

1) Are there any "standard" C++, Java or IDL specifications for classes that
represent
    a) DNA sequences,
    b) RNA sequences,
    c) Protein sequences,
    d) Pairwise and multiple sequence alignments?

2) What's the relation of the above sequence class specifications to existing
flat-file sequence formats (EMBL, GenBank, PIR, SwissProt, ...)?

3) Are there any CORBA servers available now (or in the near future) that give a
piece of CORBA complient client code approximately the level of access to
sequence databases that a human user has using popular WWW interfaces.
Specifically, the CORBA server should deliver:
    a) A single sequence entry (as an object of one of the above sequence
classes) upon specification of a sequence ID (accession number).
    b) A set of sequence entries (as a collection of objects of one of the above
sequence classes) upon specification of a query expression.
    c) An ordered list of sequences (as a collection of objects of one of the
above sequence classes) and maybe alignments as the result of a homology search
against the remote database using BLAST, FASTA, ....

4) Instead of relying on remote CORBA servers one can also install sequence
databases locally. Are there implementations (C++ libraries or Java packages)
that perform the tasks given in question 3 above, but access locally installed
(flat-file) sequence databases instead of remote CORBA servers?

=============================================================================

Why all this? Well, it's obvious that I would like to write programs that
automate procedures that I can now easily perform (in low volume) using the WWW:
do homology searches, request specific sequence entries and so on. And I would
like to write _real_ programs, not just scripts that tediously wrap these tasks
into email messages that are then sent off to an email-based server.

The first prerequisite to doing this is to have an OO representation of
sequences. Although it doesn't seem difficult to come up with a reasonable
specification of DNA, RNA or protein sequences, this would presumably be yet
another specification - hence question 1.

This representation of sequences should really be independent of any flat-file
sequence format. That is, I don't want to have to deal with EMBL DNA sequence
objects and GenBank DNA sequence objects at this level. Hence question 2.

And then of course it would be great to actually have CORBA compliant servers
that I can use from my programs to query remotely installed sequence databases
and to execute some common algorithms like BLAST, FASTA, (multiple) sequence
alignments, etc.. The results of these algorithms should be returned as objects
of the same "standard" sequence classes that I locally use to represent
sequences. Hence question 3.

CORBA-based access to remote sequence databases might be to ambitious. Instead,
I could install the common sequence databases locally (as flat files) and access
them using a class library that represents sequences as objects of these
"standard" sequence classes - question 4.

By the way: I expect being called naive for asking these questions (-:

    Thank you very much indeed for taking the time to answer this!!
    gerald
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[ I narrowed the response a bit, but then again I probably shouldn't
have. So this time the chemistry lists are included. Sorry. ] 

Hi,

as you maybe know, the EBI has been advocating the use of CORBA in Molecular
Biology for a while now.

There is currently an effort underway to standardize classes for use in the
field of Life Sciences Research (i.e. Molecular Biology and more). The Life
Sciences Research SIG (special interest group) has been set up recently (
homepage: http://lsr.ebi.ac.uk/ ). They have issued a Request For Information
(RFI), to get an impression of what the current status is, and of what 'the
field' would like to see incorporated in the standards. (Your mail actually
shows a great deal of overlap with the RFI!)  This RFI has been circulated in
the field, and responses are actually due today; see
http://lsr.ebi.ac.uk/docs/corbamed/97-09-16.html. Everybody (not just OMG
members) is invited to respond to this RFI; the

The ultimate goal of this process is to produce a set of IDL specifcations
that are useful for work in the Life Sciences.

> 3) Are there any CORBA servers available now (or in the near future) that give a
> piece of CORBA complient client code approximately the level of access to
> sequence databases that a human user has using popular WWW interfaces.

Have a look at the following URLs: 

http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/~corba/

http://sunny.ebi.ac.uk/RandD/
http://sunny.ebi.ac.uk/RandD/EBIBasicSequence.html

http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/~slidel/embl-corba/

http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/contrib/corba/SeqDB/

(some of these servers are very much in a prototype stage; do not expect too
much in terms of functionality or stability).  We are working on a next
generation server for the EMBL Nucleotide Sequence Database, which will have
a simpler interface and will be more stable.

> And then of course it would be great to actually have CORBA compliant servers
> that I can use from my programs to query remotely installed sequence databases
> and to execute some common algorithms like BLAST, FASTA, (multiple) sequence
> alignments, etc.. 

Where would the method for searching go, into something like BioSequence,
BioSequenceFactory, SeqSearchEngine ? These are the kind of questions that
must be addressed. Many of them are not trivial.

> CORBA-based access to remote sequence databases might be too ambitious. 

Well, we're working on it :-) but there are a number of issues that aren't so
simple. Especially general querying is difficult, but other, less technical
points are things like style and nomenclature also need to be
resolved. Anyway, thanks for blowing some life into this mailing list.  Kind
regards,


                                                                      Philip


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Hello,

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Reply-to: lijnzaad@ebi.ac.uk


Hi, 

> We are/were planning to reply to the RFI but 50 hardcopies
> seem a bit crazy in this day and age. 

The demand for 50 copies is imposed by the OMG. They lack the infrastructure
and logistics to run off the responses themselves for the distribution among
attendants at meetings, and therefore ask the submitters to do this. I think
this is not unreasonable, given the amount of work that is going on in the
OMG.

Anyway (quoting from the FAQ, http://lsr.ebi.ac.uk/FAQ.html):

  With the due date pressing many people will have the concern that the
  required 50 copies may not be delivered in time. Not to worry.  A common
  way to respond is by sending it via email by the due date (to
  juergen@omg.org). The fifty hard copies can either be sent later or brought
  to the meeting at which you present your response.

Also from the FAQ:


  Is it still worth responding to an RFI if I'll miss the due date?
  [answer based on text from a former co-chair of CORBAmed] 
  
  Some people may not see the RFI until it's too late to respond by the
  deadline. It is unusual for late submissions to RFIs not to be accepted by
  the OMG. However, if there are more responses than can be reviewed at a
  single meeting the ones that met the deadline will have first priority and
  some of the others may wait until the next meeting before presenting their
  response. The deadline is set three weeks before meetings so that attendees
  can have time to review the response beforehand.

With kind regards,

                                                             Philip Lijnzaad 


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All my attempts to run software presented at:

http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/applab/

resulted in errors of type 
"Applet Demo.cal.CalGUI can't start: Error java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Demo/cal/CalGUI

analogos error appear even for "Hello world" application.

It looks like Java/Corba from this source is to young to be presented.

Sergei


> From lijnzaad@ebi.ac.uk Mon Nov 10 11:25:13 1997
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:04:23 GMT
> From: Philip Lijnzaad <lijnzaad@ebi.ac.uk>
> To: bioWidgets Consortium <biowidgets-consortium@fruitfly.BDGP.Berkeley.EDU>,
        Java in Chemistry Mailing List <javachem@wag.caltech.edu>,
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> Cc: Gerald.Loeffler@univie.ac.at
> Subject: Re: Sequence Classes and CORBA Servers
> 
> [ I narrowed the response a bit, but then again I probably shouldn't
> have. So this time the chemistry lists are included. Sorry. ] 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> as you maybe know, the EBI has been advocating the use of CORBA in Molecular
> Biology for a while now.
> 
> There is currently an effort underway to standardize classes for use in the
> field of Life Sciences Research (i.e. Molecular Biology and more). The Life
> Sciences Research SIG (special interest group) has been set up recently (
> homepage: http://lsr.ebi.ac.uk/ ). They have issued a Request For Information
> (RFI), to get an impression of what the current status is, and of what 'the
> field' would like to see incorporated in the standards. (Your mail actually
> shows a great deal of overlap with the RFI!)  This RFI has been circulated in
> the field, and responses are actually due today; see
> http://lsr.ebi.ac.uk/docs/corbamed/97-09-16.html. Everybody (not just OMG
> members) is invited to respond to this RFI; the
> 
> The ultimate goal of this process is to produce a set of IDL specifcations
> that are useful for work in the Life Sciences.
> 
> > 3) Are there any CORBA servers available now (or in the near future) that give a
> > piece of CORBA complient client code approximately the level of access to
> > sequence databases that a human user has using popular WWW interfaces.
> 
> Have a look at the following URLs: 
> 
> http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/~corba/
> 
> http://sunny.ebi.ac.uk/RandD/
> http://sunny.ebi.ac.uk/RandD/EBIBasicSequence.html
> 
> http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/~slidel/embl-corba/
> 
> http://industry.ebi.ac.uk/contrib/corba/SeqDB/
> 
> (some of these servers are very much in a prototype stage; do not expect too
> much in terms of functionality or stability).  We are working on a next
> generation server for the EMBL Nucleotide Sequence Database, which will have
> a simpler interface and will be more stable.
> 
> > And then of course it would be great to actually have CORBA compliant servers
> > that I can use from my programs to query remotely installed sequence databases
> > and to execute some common algorithms like BLAST, FASTA, (multiple) sequence
> > alignments, etc.. 
> 
> Where would the method for searching go, into something like BioSequence,
> BioSequenceFactory, SeqSearchEngine ? These are the kind of questions that
> must be addressed. Many of them are not trivial.
> 
> > CORBA-based access to remote sequence databases might be too ambitious. 
> 
> Well, we're working on it :-) but there are a number of issues that aren't so
> simple. Especially general querying is difficult, but other, less technical
> points are things like style and nomenclature also need to be
> resolved. Anyway, thanks for blowing some life into this mailing list.  Kind
> regards,
> 
> 
>                                                                       Philip
> 
> 
> -- 
> Philip Lijnzaad, lijnzaad@ebi.ac.uk | European Bioinformatics Institute
> +44 (0)1223 49 4639                 | Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton
> +44 (0)1223 49 4468 (fax)           | Cambridge CB10 1SD,  GREAT BRITAIN
> PGP fingerprint: E1 03 BF 80 94 61 B6 FC  50 3D 1F 64 40 75 FB 53
> 

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Hello All,


	I'm trying to modify the DeFT program, and I'm having difficulty,
so I'm wondering if anyone on this list could provide any advice.
	I want a normal energy optimization be to run, and after that I
want DeFT to integrate and report powers of the electron density, and power of r times power of the density for each
nucleus, where r is the distance from that nucleus. Z.B. \rho^{1/3),
r*\rho^{1/3}, r^{2}*\rho^{2/3} etc.
	I've atempted to do this by making a sperate module for this
calculation -- actually to check things I just wanted it to integrate the
desnity and recover the number of density -- patterened after beckex.f,
and then I had scfrun.f call it at the end. This didn't seem to work.
This may be due to confusion on my part as to which variables are which,
and confuse about the flow of the program.	
	If anyone has attempted to do anything similar, or otherwise knows
about DeFT and would like to give me advice, I'd appreciate it.
	You can either send replies to the list or to me persoanlly.

	thanks

Fred Salsbury
sals@dirac.cchem.berkeley.edu

	


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Organization: U of MN, Medical School, Dept of Biochemistry
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Hello netters,
A while ago I requested some info about surface docking. Here is the
summary.
Thank you all who replied to my posting.
Regards,

Dmitri Mikhailov
Ph.D. student


***********   Original question
Hello netters,

I am trying to do MM calculations for interactions between a protein and

a surface. I would like to construct different atomic level models for
the
surface and "dock" a protein to them. Could anyone point me to a
reference
in a literature or existing software that could handle such a relatively

big system (~40000 atoms) and estimate the "most favorable" position of
a
protein on atomic surfaces. I am quite new to this area of surface
simulations, so any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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Summary of replies
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From info@molsoft.com Mon Nov 10 13:06:15 1997
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:06:59 -0400
From: MolSoft info <info@molsoft.com>

Dear Dmitri,

    You may have a look at ICMlite (http://www.molsoft.com).
It is free for universities.
   Sincerely,

Rita Arutsian,
Molsoft, LLC
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From bear@ellington.Pharmacy.arizona.edu Mon Nov 10 13:07:42 1997
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:41:14 -0700 (MST)
From: Soaring Bear <bear@ellington.Pharmacy.arizona.edu>
To: Dmitri V Mikhailov <mikha001@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: CCL:surface docking

You would find on my comp-chem page
(http://ellington.pharm.arizona.edu/~bear/chem.html)

this link that might help:
http://guitar.rockefeller.edu/gramm/index.html
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From CorsarCo@classic.msn.com Mon Nov 10 13:07:48 1997
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 97 08:28:15 UT
From: "Corsar Co." <CorsarCo@classic.msn.com>
To: Dmitri V Mikhailov <mikha001@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Please, visit this site.

http://mall.lnd.com/corsar/page/page.htm
From peter.willemsen@jotun.no Mon Nov 10 13:08:00 1997
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:26:56 +0100
From: peter.willemsen@jotun.no
To: Dmitri V Mikhailov <mikha001@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: CCL:surface docking
As far as I know you should look into the following software:
- MSI's Cerius2 (= the best but most expensive software for large
molecules and
surfaces)
- Sybyl from Tripos (good for biopolymers, not so good for material
engineering
modeling).

Please let me know if you need details. Could you please send me the
replies you
have received or summarize your answers to the list?

Peter Willemsen
     Jotun A/S
     Corporate Technology Centre
     PO Box 2021 Hasle
     3235 Sandefjord
     Norway
     fax. 0047 33466842
     tel. 0047 33457522
     email peter.willemsen@jotun.no
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