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Hello

is anybody out there using meldf-x?
Where are reaching the filesize limit of 4.29GB on a HP-Exemplar for
scratch files. We also figured out how to split them in sint but we
don't see any way to use them further in symtrn.
Does anybody have experience with that kind of problems?

Thanks for your help in advance!

Stefan
 
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Dear CCLers!

I wonder to known if  G94 and G98 output files are identical

Thank you for your attention.



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Hi !
I heard that Mr. Gavezotti has developped a program to calculate
(resp. predict) Crystal strcutures of molecular systems.
Is that true ?
Can you give me a hint where to get that program (if it exists) ?

Thank you for your help (in advance)
Bye
Elmar

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dear netters:
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Hi !
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jan De Kerpel wrote:

> Dear CCL's,
> 
> 
> I am looking for receptor/ligand protein docking software 
> (flexible and/or rigid) like FlexiDock or Affinity (provided 
> by some commercial groups) but for low/free prices (academic 
> usage). 
> To be run on sgi R10000, IBM RS6000 or pc.
>  
> Thanks,
> Jan De Kerpel
> email : jan.dekerpel@chem.kuleuven.ac.be


Dr. De Kerpel,

We have a program DockVision that might be what you are looking for.
            
DockVision is a new docking package created by scientists for scientists.  By
including Monte Carlo, Genetic Algorithm, and database screening docking
algorithms in one complete docking package, DockVision increases your
capability to generate laudable results.  Moreover, access to multiple
algorithms is not the only advantage DockVision gives you; you also have
access to a full suite of powerful tools at your disposal.  Instead of
waiting for the full docking run to be completed before you can check RMS
deviation and other data, access them at any time from within the same
interface.  With it's companion visualization program DockCam, you can
quickly look at docking results,

Dockvision currently runs on SGI, RS6000 and Linux.


For more information, go to www.dockvision.com


Steven Ness
sness@byron.biochem.ubc.ca
Strynadka Lab
Department of Biochemistry
University of British Columbia
Canada



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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT
32nd Midwest Theoretical Chemistry Conference
University of Notre Dame
Notre Dame, IN
May 20-22, 1999
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please mark your calendar and plan to attend the 32nd Midwest
Theoretical Chemistry Conference to be held May 20-22, 1999, at the
University of Notre Dame and hosted jointly by the Department of
Chemistry and Biochemistry and by the Radiation Laboratory.

The conference covers all areas of theoretical and computational
chemistry. Contributions are invited from all researchers, including
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A broad cross section of theoretical and computational topics is
expected to be represented in both the oral and poster sessions.
Traditionally, this meeting has served as a unique opportunity for
students and postdocs to give short oral presentations on their
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As more information on the conference becomes available it can be
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We look forward to seeing you this May.

The Organizing Committee:

     Daniel M. Chipman
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     Olaf Wiest



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Hi,

I want to investigate some systems involving electron transfer (ET)
reactions, theoretically. As I am still at the beginning stage, I am
looking for some good references (reviews, books, papers, etc) and
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Dear CCLers,
	I have been asked to send on this meeting 
announcement. My apologies if you have received it before. 


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                           MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT

               The Molecular Graphics and Modelling Society
  
                                 presents
  
                       MM/QM METHODS AND APPLICATIONS

                     The first MM/QM meeting in the UK
  
                             14-16 April, 1999
                 University of Southampton, United Kingdom

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

A two day meeting covering the development and application of combined
Molecular Mechanics/Quantum Mechanics methods.

Invited speakers:

        Tim Clark               University of Erlangen, Germany
        Ian Hillier             University of Manchester, UK
        Paul Lyne               University of Oxford, UK
        Adrian Mullholland      University of Bristol, UK
        Jean-Louis Rivail       Universite Henri Poincare-Nancy, France
        Walter Thiel            University of Zurich, Switzerland
        Ian Williams            University of Bath, UK

The meeting will begin after lunch on Wednesday, 14 April, 1999, and finish
before lunch on Friday, 16 April, 1999.

Oral contributions and poster presentations are invited; abstracts should 
be submitted for consideration to Dr Frank Blaney by 1 February, 1999. A 
limited number of student bursaries are available; students should indicate
that they wish to be considered for a bursary when they submit their
abstract.

For further information about the meeting, see:

                http://www.soton.ac.uk/~chemphys/jessex/mgms

To register, send a completed registration form obtainable from the above
web page to Dr Frank Blaney by 1 March, 1999.

         EARLY REGISTRATION IS RECOMMENDED AS PLACES ARE LIMITED

The 1999 Annual General Meeting of the Molecular Graphics and Modelling
Society will take place on Thursday, 15 April, 1999, at 5 pm at this
conference.

Dr FE Blaney
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
New Frontiers Science Park (North)
Third Avenue
Harlow
Essex
CM19 5AW
email: frank_e_blaney@sbphrd.com
                                   

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

----------------------
Adrian Mulholland

School of Chemistry        Phone: 0117-928-9097
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Bristol BS8 1TS            Adrian.Mulholland@bris.ac.uk



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Hello,
    In the context of individual research laboratories looking for
workstations or low to mid-range compute servers, are alpha based computers
used much in computational chemistry laboratories and if so how?   (For
this question please regard Alpha based Cray computers as upper-range
compute servers.)  On paper these machines seem quite powerful.  I would
appreciate hearing what people think of such machines, particularly people
who have used them.
                  John Shelley




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 Dear CCL Readers:

 I am studying  gas chemisorption  on  solid surface and I am
interested  in knowing how the CO2 can be chemisorbed ( Different states
of energy, any mechanical theory about that or whatever, and calculus ab
initio)  . If someone can help me whit any kind of information
(publications/refrences) about  this topic I will be very grateful.

Thanks in advance.

Alejandro Montoya E.
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Subject: 99.06.21 31st ACS Central Regional Meeting in Columbus
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I did not see it advertized on CCL, but it probably should have had been.
I am not in anyway involved in organization, so I am not working for myself
here.


31st Central Regional Meeting of American Chemical Society will be held at:

                            June 21 - 23 1999
               The Ohio State University Fawcett Center
                  Hotel-Restaurant-Conference Center
                       2400 Olentangy River Road
                            Columbus OH 43210


For program, calls for papers, details, session chairpeople, etc, etc. look at:

http://chemistry.ohio-state.edu/acs-crm31/

The motto is "Chemistry in Space", but/and we CompChem geeks fit anywhere,
so you may want to speak there.

In short, the deadline to give a talk or whatever is March 1, 1999.
Get your ACS forms ready...


Jan K. Labanowski            |    phone: 614-292-9279,  FAX: 614-292-7168
Ohio Supercomputer Center    |    Internet: jkl@ccl.net 
1224 Kinnear Rd,             |    http://www.ccl.net/chemistry.html
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SBS will host its 5th Annual Conference and Exhibition at the Edinburgh
International Conference Center, September 13-16, 1999.  This meeting will
address all aspects of High Throughput Screening including combinatorial
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From: Didier MATHIEU <mathieu@ripault.cea.fr>
To: chemistry@www.ccl.net
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Dear all,
In reply to requests, here are the replies I got to my question about
DFT description of H-bonds.
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Here are the replies I got to my answer.

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Didier MATHIEU
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Tel. 33(0)2.47.34.41.85

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Subject:
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:17:27 -0600 (CST)
From: Carlo Adamo <carlo@celaeno.rice.edu>
To: mathieu@ripault.cea.fr

Ciao Didier,

I did some works about DFT & H-bond. Please give a look at these papers:

Chem. Phys. Lett. 224 (1994) 432
Chem. Phys. Lett. 231 (1994) 295
J. Chem. Phys. 102 (1995) 364
Int. J. Quantum. Chem. 56 (1995) 697
J. Phys. Chem.  99 (1995) 15062
J. Chem. Phys. 105 (1996) 11007
Int. J. Quantum. Chem. 61 (1997) 429
J. Comp. Chem.  18 (1997) 1993

a review was published in:
Recent Advances in Density Functional Methods, Part II, Edited by
D.P. Chong, World Scientific Press, Singapore (1997).

Furthermore the computation of H-bond strength in small complexes, as
water dimer, is one of the tests to check the performances of
new functionals. So you might find some informations also in

J. Chem. Phys. 108 (1998) 664
J. Comp. Chem.  19 (1998) 418

Carlo

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>From pudziana@bms.com  Tue Jan 26 16:03:35 1999
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:59:46 -0500
From: Andrew T Pudzianowski <pudziana@bms.com>
Subject: Re: CCL:Hydrogen Bonds with DFT / GGA
To: Didier MATHIEU <mathieu@ripault.cea.fr>

Didier MATHIEU wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I have carried out some calculations of energetic data for molecules
> including nitroaromatics with gradient-corrected DFT functionals,
> especially Becke-Perdew86.
> The results are satisfactory excepted for tri-amino-trinitro-benzene,
> the only molecule in my dataset showing intramolecular hydrogen bond.
> I read somewhere that DFT was not very good at describing hydrogen
> bonds.
> I wonder if anybody can provide me some details about this subject, i.e.
> performance of DFT with regard to hydrogen bonds.
> 
> Thank you.
> Regards
> 
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Dear Dr. Mathieu -
    I have done some work myself on this subject. There are two
publications you might find informative, as follows:
A. T. Pudzianowski, "A Systematic Appraisal of Density Functional
Methodologies for Hydrogen Bonding in Binary Ionic Complexes," J. Phys.
Chem. 100, 4781-4789 (1996)
A. T. Pudzianowski, "Current Computational Approaches to the Strong
Hydrogen Bond," in "Recent Research Developments in Physical Chemistry,"
vol. 1, Transworld Research Network, Trivandrum, India (1997), pp.
81-97.

The second is a review with lots of references; unfortunately, the book
may be hard to find but I can send a reprint if you wish. Both of these
can serve as an effective introduction to the subject and the newer
literature.

                     With best wishes,
                     Andrew Pudzianowski

>From rozas@pinar1.csic.es  Tue Jan 26 09:35:20 1999
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:33:38 +0000
From: Isabel Rozas <rozas@pinar1.csic.es>
Subject: HB with DFT
To: mathieu@ripault.cea.fr

Hello there!
I don't know if you remember me, it was many many years ago that 
we met in some of this french-spanish conferences. I did my PhD
with Pilar Goya and now I work with her and with Prof. Elguero 
in Madrid in the Medicinal Chemistry Institute.
I am also subscribe to the computational chemistry list so I saw
your question this morning. Enough of presentations and let's go
with the question. 
Latetly we have work quite a lot in hydrogen bonding. We have used
>from HF/6-31G till MP2 (and more)/6-311++G**. Also we have used
DFT but not the Becke-Perdew86 but the B3LYP. I do not too much 
about the Perdew but I can tell you that the Becke3LYP works
very well for hydrogen bonds. We have even found out that using
B3LYP/6-311++G** (or even with a little smaller base like 6-31+G*)
you get results similar to those obtained with MP2/6-311++G**.
Some of our work is gathered in: 
	I. Alkorta, I. Rozas and J. Elguero.
	"Non-conventional hydrogen bonds"
	Chem. Soc. Rev., 163-170, 27 (1998).
but if you want more information we have just create a web page
with all the theoretical work we are doing and maybe can be
of some utility for you. The address of that web page is as follows:
http://www.iqm.csic.es/are/main.htm
So trying to answer your question, I don't beleive is a problem of DFT
but maybe can be a problem of the method you chose (BeckePerdew86 vs.
Becke3LYP). I do not know either which program are you using byt this
B3LYP is included in Gaussian94 and 98.
I hope everything is fine with you and I sent you my regards

Isabel Rozas

>From jsl@virgil.ruc.dk  Tue Jan 26 10:18:48 1999
From: "Jens Spanget-Larsen" <jsl@virgil.ruc.dk>
To: Didier MATHIEU <mathieu@ripault.cea.fr>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:21:49 +0100
Subject: Re: CCL:Hydrogen Bonds with DFT / GGA

Didier MATHIEU:

> I have carried out some calculations of energetic data for molecules
> including nitroaromatics with gradient-corrected DFT functionals,
> especially Becke-Perdew86. 
> The results are satisfactory excepted for tri-amino-trinitro-benzene,
> the only molecule in my dataset showing intramolecular hydrogen bond.
> I read somewhere that DFT was not very good at describing hydrogen
> bonds.
> I wonder if anybody can provide me some details about this subject, i.e.
> performance of DFT with regard to hydrogen bonds.

We obtained satisfactory results with B3LYP/6-31G* for molecular and 
vibrational structures of intramolecularly H-bonded beta-hydroxy 
carbonyl compounds like malonaldehyde enol and anthralin:

Chem. Phys. 240, 51-61 (1999)
J. Mol. Struct. 475, 131-140 (1999)

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>From brauer@al.bundy.uni-jena.de  Tue Jan 26 09:09:35 1999
From: Michael Braeuer <brauer@al.bundy.uni-jena.de>
Subject: Re: CCL:Hydrogen Bonds with DFT / GGA
To: mathieu@ripault.cea.fr (Didier MATHIEU)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 99 9:13:41 MET

> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I have carried out some calculations of energetic data for molecules
> including nitroaromatics with gradient-corrected DFT functionals,
> especially Becke-Perdew86. 
> The results are satisfactory excepted for tri-amino-trinitro-benzene,
> the only molecule in my dataset showing intramolecular hydrogen bond.
> I read somewhere that DFT was not very good at describing hydrogen
> bonds.
> I wonder if anybody can provide me some details about this subject, i.e.
> performance of DFT with regard to hydrogen bonds.


Hi,

the Montreal group around Prof. Salahub developed a functional called
LAP3 which is able to handle hydrogen bonds correctly (even transition
states for hydrogen transfer). This work is conected mainly to
E. Proynov after whom the functional is named.

If you contact them they surely provide you with their program DeMon.

Best regards

Michael



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>From gerwalin@rhrk.uni-kl.de  Mon Jan 25 23:06:59 1999
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:07:14 +0100 (MEZ)
From: Elmar Gerwalin <gerwalin@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
To: mathieu@ripault.cea.fr
Subject: Second (and last) list of articles


Hi Didier
Here comes the second (and last) list of articles I have about
H-bonded systems. It#s from Thomas Steiner from Berlin, who does
crystallisation experiments and is not a theretical chemist.
Hope that helps you, nevertheless.

Bye
Elmar
(the part from the original mail, that was in german:)
  Umezawa et al., Bull.Chem.Soc.Jpn, 71, 1998, 1207.
Uebersichtsartikel: Nishio et al., Tetrahedron, 51, 1989, 7201 und
  Tetrahedron, 51, 1995, 8665.

for organic chemists mainly (collections of structures from databases)

(a book:) M.Nishio, M.Hirota and Y. Umezawa. The CH/pi interaction. Evidence, nature
 and consequences. Wiley, New York, 1998.

Ich selbst habe ueber CH-pi mit aciden CH Gruppen publiziert, z.B.
Steiner et al., Acta Cryst. B53, 1997, 843, J.Chem.Soc., Perkin Trans, 2,
1995, 1312 und 1996, 2441. 

Theoretical articles !:
Rozas et al., J.Phys.Chem.A, 101, 1997, 9457,
Review: Alkorta et al., Chem.Soc.Rev., 27, 1998, 163.

(author:Thomas Steiner , Berlin)

>From dima@euch4e.chem.emory.edu  Mon Jan 25 22:56:46 1999
From: Dmitry Khoroshun <dima@euch4e.chem.emory.edu>
Subject: Re: CCL:Hydrogen Bonds with DFT / GGA
To: mathieu@ripault.cea.fr (Didier MATHIEU)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:56:47 -0500 (EST)

Hello!

Some people think that the quality of description of hydrogen bonds by
density functional methods is very sensitive to the quality of the basis
set used. One of the suggestions is that the convergence of DFT methods
with respect to basis set is much slower than that of, for example, MP2.

You may want to check

CPL 1995, 245, 129
CPL 1995, 247, 112
Canadian J. Chem. 1995, 73, 710
JPC 1995, 99, 5899
JPC 1995, 99, 15837
JPC 1996, 100, 3942

Usually, gradient-corrected functionals are reliable with large basis sets

CPL 1996, 254, 135
CPL 1996, 263, 345
JPC 1995, 99, 592

Sincerely,
Dmitry Khoroshun
dima@euch4e.chem.emory.edu

>From gerwalin@rhrk.uni-kl.de  Mon Jan 25 22:55:19 1999
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:55:18 +0100 (MEZ)
From: Elmar Gerwalin <gerwalin@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
To: mathieu@ripault.cea.fr
Subject: List of articles on DFT+HBOND

Hi Didier
Here's the first list of articles I found on your theme.
It's  a summary from the CCL from a while ago: Hope it helps.

>From chemie.uni-kl.de!elg Mon Jan 25 22:50:14 1999
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:50:11 +0100
From: elg@chemie.uni-kl.de (Elmar Gerwalin)
To: gerwalin@rhrk

>From chemistry-request@www.ccl.net  Wed Aug 13 21:35:52 1997
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:09:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anatoli Korkin <korkin@qtp.ufl.edu>
Subject: CCL:G:Summary - B3LYP for H-bonded systems
To: chemistry@www.ccl.net


>Does any one know references on comparative ab initio and DFT (preferably 
>B3LYP) studies of H-bonded systems and proton transfer? Any reviews on
>this topic?

Dear CCLers,
CCLers,

Thanks to everybody who responded on my question. I have received as
much answers as requests for summary. It was also fun to hear from and
about my old friends and to make new contacts. H-boding seems to be a
nice topic for a chat, although I was surprized it is still so popular :-)

We have decided to extend our introduction a bit to cite and to discuss
some recent results.

Have a good day, everybody!

Anatoli

P.S. Sorry, I have no time to clean up messages properly. Please, substract 
what you need yourself. I also keep the addresses to let H-bonding community 
to have some local talks among them :-)

Summary:
--------


Dear Anatoli,

Dennis Salahub has worked on this extensively; several imporatant papers
were published recently, also with repsect to developing new functionals
for these purposes (BLap.. functionals).

What systems are you interested in? Please summarize the responses,
I'm curious.

Hope all is well at your end. It's finally HOT here (for German standards).

All the best,
Peter

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HI, ANATOLI -

     I can certainly give you one.
J. E. Del Bene, W. B. Person, and K. Szczepaniak,
J. Phys. Chem. 99, 10705 (1995).

     DFT/B3LYP can be quite erratic.  What's up?????   Janet



hi Anatoli, 

I've been working for a while in H-bonded systems comparing dft (b3lyp is
included) and ab-initio methods. 
Maybe this can help:

"Cooperative effects in water trimers. The performance of density
functional approaches" L. Gonzalez et al.  J. Molec. Struct. (Theochem)
371 (1996) 1

"High level ab initio versus DFT calculations on (H2O2)2 and H2O2-H2O
complexes as prototypes of multiple h-bonded systems" L. Gonzalez et al. 
J. Comput. Chem. 18 (1997) 1124.

Best wishes, 

	Leticia Gonzalez
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Hi Anatoli,

I assumed you already received a message from Leti Gonzales about her 
work done on water dimers (she sits next door in Boyd's lab).

I also can add to that list a paper J.Chem.Soc., Faraday Trans., 
1997, 93(2), 333.

Best regards,

Vladimir


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I hope you find the following references useful.

Sim et al. JACS 1992, 114, 4391 "Gaussian density functional calculations on h 
bonded systems"

Kovacs et al J. Comp. Chem. 1996, 17(16), 1804 "Theoretical study of 
intramolecular hydrogen bonding ... "

Gonzalez et al J. Comp. Chem. 1997, 18, 1124 " High level ab initio versus dft 
calculations on ... "

Hobza et al J. Comp. Chem. 1995, 16(11), 1315 " density functional theory and 
molecular clusters"

Kind Regards,
Damian Moran

    email: damian.moran@mq.edu.au  voice:(+61) 2 9850 8278 
fax:(+61) 2 9850 8313 www:http://www.chem.mq.edu.au/~dmoran
School of Chemistry,Macquarie University,NSW 2109 Australia

        

H-bonded, i don't know, but you might find


@ARTICLE{Jursic1996a,
        AUTHOR             = {Branko S. Jursic},
        JOURNAL            = CPL,
        PAGES              = {603-608},
        TITLE              = {Density functional theory study of radical 
hydrogen abstraction with hydrogen and hydroxyl radicals},
        VOLUME             = {256},
        YEAR               = {1996}
}


interesting anyway.
---------------------------
Dear Anatoli,

a comparison between HF, MP2, different DFT methods and experimental data 
for the water dimer and hydrogen bonded base pairs is given in:

A. St-Amant, Density functional methods in biomolecular modeling, Reviews 
in Computational Chemistry 7, chapter 5, VCH 1996.

We have carried out some calculations of hydrogen bonded nucleic acid base 
pairs at MP2/6-31G**//HF/6-31G** and B3LYP/6-31G** level. The B3LYP-
intermolecular distances seem to be somewhat better than the HF- 
distances and the interaction energies from single point MP2 and B3LYP 
are in reasonable agreement.

Michael Meyer

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Anatoli, in response to your question about proton transfer and DFT
methods, we have been doing alot of calcs on the effectiveness of 
various DFT methods for the study of short, strong (or low-barrier)
hyrogen bonds. One of these studies will come out this month in JACS,
watch for it!

If I had to summarize, I would say that in general the B3LYP functional
gives geomtries and energies of reactions almost identical to MP2 in all
cases. BLYP itself often gives hydrogen bond energies a little larger
than either MP2 or B3LYP.  For the hydrogen bifluoride system (coming
out in Theochem shortly) the B3LYP, BLYP, MP2, MP3, MP4, QCISD,and CCSD
results are almost identical. The SVWN and HF results are somewhat 
different than the other correlated methods.

If you are interested in more specifics just contact me.

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hese may be of some use:
Proton affinity and DFT  Phys Chem (jpc) 100 (1996) 11595

Deprotonation (E2 reactions) jpc 100 (1996) 16892

Gas-phase acidity            jpc 100 (1996) 17465

C-H...O hydrogen bonds, MP2 cf. B-LYP
                             Chem Phys Letters 266(1,2) (1997) 23
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Your friend Igor Svishchev has just joined our Department.

   Best Wishes,

   E. Lewars
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Dr. Korkin - 
Forgive me if I recommend a couple of my own publications:
A. T. Pudzianowski, "A Systematic Appraisal of Density Functional
Methodologies for Hydrogen Bonding in Binary Ionic Complexes," 
J. Phys. Chem. 100 (12), 4781-4789 (1996)     and

A. T. Pudzianowski, "Current computational approaches to the strong
hydrogen bond," Recent Res. Devel. in Physical Chem., 1, 81-97 (1997).

The first deals with the strong H-bond and has a lot to say about
comparisons of B3-LYP and B-LYP with MP2, mostly with the 6-311++
G(d,p) basis set. The second is a review of the whole area of com-
putational descriptions of the strong H-bond. The reference is
a bit obscure, so if you're interested please let me know and I'll
send you a reprint.
            Hoping this will be helpful,
             Andrew Pudzianowski
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Perhaps

J. M. L. Martin, V. Aviyente, and C. Lifshitz, ``The insertion of amines 
and alcohols into proton bound dimers. A density functional study'', 
Journal of Physical Chemistry A 101, 2597-2606 (1997) 

might interest you.

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See for a very recent review :
	
	Carlo Adamo, Vincenzo Barone
	Structural and Dynamical Features of Hydrogen Bonds
	from Conventional and Hybrid Density Functional Methods
	in : Recent Advances in Density Functional Meythods, Part II,
	Ed.: Delano P. Chong, World Scientific, 1997, Chap. 5,
	pp. 115-164
	( Recent Advances in Computational Chemistry, Vol.1 )

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Hi Anatoli,

try

1. P. Hobza, J. Sponer, T. Reschel: "Density Functional Theory and
   Molecular Clusters", J. Comput. Chem. 16 (1995) 1315

2. M. Planas, C. Lee, J. Novoa: "Kinetic of the Proton Transfer in X-(H2O)4
   Clusters (X=H2O, NH3, H2S, and HCl): Evidence for a Concerted Mechanism",
   J. Phys. Chem. 100 (1996) 16495

3. J. Del Bene, W. Person, K. Szczepaniak: "Properties of Hydrogen-Bonded
   Complexes Obtained from the B3LYP Functional with 6-31G(d,p) and 6-31+G(d,p)
   Basis Sets: Comparison with MP2/6-31+G(d,p) Results and Experimental Data",
   J. Phys. Chem. 99 (1995) 10705

4. Z. Latajka, Y. Boutellier, S. Scheiner: "Critical assessment of density
   functional methods for study of proton transfer processes. (FHF)-", Chem.
   Phys. Lett. 234 (1995) 159

5. Z. Latajka, S. Berski: "Density functional study of the H3N-Cl2 system - the
   importance of Hartree-Fock exchange in density function methods", J. Mol.
   Struct. (Theochem) 371 (1996) 11

6. J. Lundell, Z. Latajka: "Density Functional Study of Hydrogen-Bonded Systems:
   The Water-Carbon Monoxide Complex", J. Phys. Chem. A 101 (1997) in press.

Sincerely yours,
Bernd


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>From echamot@chamotlabs.com  Mon Jan 25 19:37:13 1999
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:37:12 -0600
To: Didier MATHIEU <mathieu@ripault.cea.fr>
From: Ernest Chamot <echamot@chamotlabs.com>
Subject: Re: CCL:Hydrogen Bonds with DFT / GGA

Hi Didier,

You asked:

>I read somewhere that DFT was not very good at describing hydrogen
>bonds.
>I wonder if anybody can provide me some details about this subject, i.e.
>performance of DFT with regard to hydrogen bonds.

I use DFT a fair amount, and try to keep track of its strengths and
weaknesses.  The ability of DFT to describe hydrogen bonds (like so many
other properties) has been improved by the use of gradient corrections, so
that earlier generalizations of whether DFT is or isn't good at describing
H-bonds are no longer appropriate.

 Sim, St-Amant, Papai, & Salahub, J. Am. Chem. Soc., 114, 4391-400 (1992).

The accuracy will depend on the GGA used.  Here are some estimates (and
sources) of the accuracy of DFT calculations (including BP calculations,
since  you stated that you had been using that GGA) on H-bonded systems:

1) Earlier, bond lengths for a couple of H-bond systems were found accurate
only to within ~ 0.1 and 0.3 A respectively  with BP and VWN:

 See "Density Functional Methods in Chemistry," Labanowski & Andzelm Ed.,
Springer-Verlag (1991).

2) The B88P92 combination was supposed to be better for H-bonds:

 Perez-Jorda & Becke, Chem. Phys. Lett., 233, 134-7 (1995).

3) A comparison of BLYP & B3-LYP/ACM GGA's  with several ionic H-bonds was
reported to this list to calculate bond lengths within ~ 0.02-0.04 A and
energies within ~ 2 kcal:

 See posting to CCL by A. T. Pudzianowski, 5/3/95.

4) A related calculation, would be to compare the accuracy of proton
affinities.  These have been found to be accurate within ~ 4 kcal for BP
and VWN, and ranging from ~ 0.1 to 2 kcal for B3LYP/ACM:

 Fitzgerald & Andzelm, J. Phys. Chem., 95, 10531-4 (1991).
 Reported by A. Becke, San Francisco ACS Meeting, PHYS248, April, 1997.
 P. Redfern, J-P Blaudeau, & L. Curtiss, J. Phys. Chem. A, 101(46), 8701-5
(1997).

Finally, you mentioned that you saw a problem with an amino-nitro aromatic:

>I have carried out some calculations of energetic data for molecules
>including nitroaromatics with gradient-corrected DFT functionals,
>especially Becke-Perdew86.
>The results are satisfactory excepted for tri-amino-trinitro-benzene,
>the only molecule in my dataset showing intramolecular hydrogen bond.

Out of curiosity, when you say the results are unsatisfactory, are you
comparing against experimental data measured in the presence of a solvent?
And if so, are you including solvent effects in your calculations?
Nitroaromatics (specifically their radical anions) can show some subtle
changes in geometry that can significantly change the energies. Cramer et.
al. have reported some dramatic differences accurately reproduced with
their semiempirical solvation model calculations (SM2 etc.):

Initially in ECTOC-1, paper #46, 6/12/95;
http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/ectoc/ectoc-1.html

And I have seen this in my own calculations using the COSMO solvation
model, which has since been implemented in combination with DFT:

 J. Andzelm, C. Kolmel, & A. Klamt, J. Chem. Phys., 103(21), 9312-20 (1995).

I hope this helps.

EC
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>From gautier@and.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de  Mon Jan 25 18:07:10 1999
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:07:10 +0100
From: Regis Gautier <gautier@and.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de>
To: Didier MATHIEU <mathieu@ripault.cea.fr>
Subject: Re: CCL:Hydrogen Bonds with DFT / GGA

Bonjour,

Il s'avere que le cas des liaisons faibles comme les liaisons hydrogene
n'est pas maitrise par les fonctionelles GGA comme BP86. Il apparait
que les fonctionelles hybrides conduisent a de meilleurs resultats comme
B3LYP.
Voir : H. Chermette, L'Actualite Chimique 1996, 7 ,10-15 et ref citees

Cordialement,

R. Gautier

> Hello everybody,

>
> I have carried out some calculations of energetic data for molecules
> including nitroaromatics with gradient-corrected DFT functionals,
> especially Becke-Perdew86.
> The results are satisfactory excepted for tri-amino-trinitro-benzene,
> the only molecule in my dataset showing intramolecular hydrogen bond.
> I read somewhere that DFT was not very good at describing hydrogen
> bonds.
> I wonder if anybody can provide me some details about this subject, i.e.
> performance of DFT with regard to hydrogen bonds.
>
> Thank you.
> Regards
>

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>From carlo@celaeno.rice.edu  Mon Jan 25 17:19:24 1999
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:17:27 -0600 (CST)
From: Carlo Adamo <carlo@celaeno.rice.edu>
To: mathieu@ripault.cea.fr

Ciao Didier,

I did some works about DFT & H-bond. Please give a look at these papers:

Chem. Phys. Lett. 224 (1994) 432
Chem. Phys. Lett. 231 (1994) 295
J. Chem. Phys. 102 (1995) 364
Int. J. Quantum. Chem. 56 (1995) 697
J. Phys. Chem.  99 (1995) 15062
J. Chem. Phys. 105 (1996) 11007
Int. J. Quantum. Chem. 61 (1997) 429
J. Comp. Chem.  18 (1997) 1993

a review was published in:
Recent Advances in Density Functional Methods, Part II, Edited by
D.P. Chong, World Scientific Press, Singapore (1997).

Furthermore the computation of H-bond strength in small complexes, as 
water dimer, is one of the tests to check the performances of
new functionals. So you might find some informations also in

J. Chem. Phys. 108 (1998) 664
J. Comp. Chem.  19 (1998) 418

Carlo


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Hi Robert,

Take a look at Beratan's article in Science, 282, 2247 (1998).

Regards,

Frank Devlin.


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Dear all:

I hereby announce the official release of Situs, a program package for
the docking of protein crystal structures to single-molecule,
low-resolution maps from electron microscopy.

The program package has been developed to provide a robust and
quantitative method for the localization of biomolecular subunits in
low-resolution data. The package makes use of single-molecule density
maps that can be obtained by subtraction of maps from specimens of
variable subunit composition. The central algorithm is a
topology-representing neural network to correlate features 
within the structural data sets.

Version 1.0 is available at http://chemcca10.ucsd.edu/~situs/


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Hi,

Here is the summary of my question about the programs for ET theory.
There were much less responses than I expected. I received quite some
responses showing they are interested to see the summary. I do hope
someone work in this area can provide some help in leading me and those
who are interested to enter this area.

The orginal question:

> Hello, everyone,
>
> I am looking for any programs or softwares that is used in electron
> transfer study. There  have been many models developed in electron
> transfer theory. I want to do some quantum mechanical study in some
> systems.
> Any suggestion is welcomed.

Reply one:
-
From: Motohiro NAKANO    <mnakano@ucsd.edu>

I think you may be interested in the following paper by
Prof. Nancy Makri:
  "Filtered propagator functional for iterative dynamics
   of quantum dissipative systems",
which appeared in Comp. Phys. Commun. 99, 335-354 (1997).

The source code (fortran) is available from cpc archive.

Reply 2:
--
>From : Jian-Xin Guo
Department of Chemistry,
University of California,
Davis,CA95616
E-mail: guo@indigo.ucdavis.edu

whick kind of calculations do you expect? most of them need you to make
yourself code. Depend on what you want.


