From d3f012 ^at^ pellucidar.pnl.gov Tue Jun 8 02:17:46 1993 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 93 09:17:46 -0700 From: d3f012- at -pellucidar.pnl.gov Subject: Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink To: chemistry |-at-| ccl.net Message-Id: <9306081617.AA28311 _-at-_)pellucidar.pnl.gov> I am curious about the way water is treated in the Discover code from Biosym. The Discover parameters below are from the Consistent Valence Force Field (CVFF) used by Discover. Biosym uses what appears to be some variant of SPC water. I give the relevant parameters below for comparison. For reference on SPC, I use the article by Jorgensen et. al. "Comparison of simple potential functions for simulating liquid water" J. Chem. Phys. 79 (1983) p. 926. SPC Discover (CVFF) ------------------------------------------------------ rigid water Yes No r(OH) Ang. 1.0 0.96 angle (HOH) deg. 109.47 104.5 Charge(O) -0.82 -0.82 Charge(H) 0.41 0.41 Ax10^-3, kcal A^12/mol 629.7 629.358 C kcal A^6/mol 625.5 625.5 The HOH angle of 109.47 for SPC water was required to fit the O-O radial distribution for liquid water, in particular the hump at ~4.5 angstroms (see above reference). The bond angle of 104.5, used in CVFF, is more in line with the gas-phase value. As well, SPC uses rigid water, while CVFF is a flexible water model with Morse potential for O-H and quadratic term for the HOH bond angle. My questions: Have there been any tests, published or nonpublished, to verify the modifications used by Biosym. Also, Discover, apparently does not implement SHAKE so that rigid water models could be used. Is the reason for this scientific or pragmatic? ************************************************************************** Mark A. Thompson Sr. Research Scientist email: d3f012 ^at^ pnlg.pnl.gov Molecular Science Research Center FAX : 509-375-6631 Pacific Northwest Laboratory voice: 509-375-6734 PO Box 999, Mail Stop K1-90 Richland, WA. 99352 Argus available via anonymous ftp from pnlg.pnl.gov (130.20.64.11) (in the argus directory). Download the README file first. Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message are solely my own and do not represent Battelle Memorial Institute, Pacific Northwest Laboratory, or any of its clients. **************************************************************************