From 94970459[ AT ]vax1.dcu.ie Tue Nov 21 08:21:27 1995 Received: from VAX1.DCU.IE for 94970459 -A_T- vax1.dcu.ie by www.ccl.net (8.6.10/950822.1) id IAA20393; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 08:19:07 -0500 Received: from vax1.dcu.ie by vax1.dcu.ie (PMDF V4.2-12 #4433) id <01HXVTUEP23K96VK5U ^at^ vax1.dcu.ie>; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:23:07 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:23:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Paddy Kane <94970459-: at :-vax1.dcu.ie> Subject: Molecular Mechanics To: hyperchem |-at-| hyper.com, support |-at-| hyper.com Cc: chemistry $#at#$ www.ccl.net Message-id: <01HXVTUEQ4OI96VK5U /at\vax1.dcu.ie> X-Envelope-to: chemistry&$at$&www.ccl.net X-VMS-To: IN%"hyperchem-: at :-hyper.com", IN%"support-: at :-hyper.com" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"chemistry #at# www.ccl.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi, I am a HyperChem user and I have two questions about molecular mechanics (MM): I recently asked the following question > While I know that the energies obtained in an MM calculation have > no absolute meaning, would the difference in energies of two > optimized conformations of the same complex have any meaning? If > so, what kind of energy are we talking about? What I wanted to know but did not specifically ask (typical of the way I ask questions!!!!!) is that if I have two different complexes where the ligand is the same but the ion is different what is the significance of the difference in energy resulting from an (MM) optimization? The reason that I ask is that I obtained the following energies from MM optimizations for complexes of the same ligand but with different ions: Energy/ (kcal / mol) Li+ -190.6 Na+ -171.2 K+ -150.8 We have found experimentally that the ligand is selective for sodium over magnesium; so I would have expected to have obtained a lower energy for the sodium complex. So *IF* MM optimization energies are not a reliable indicator of selectively what exactly is the significance of the above difference of 63 kcal / mol? The above optimizations were carried out by assigning the atom types to the metals published by Grootenhuis and Kollman, JACS., 1989, 111, 2152-2158. However I am not aware of the existence of atom types in the case of Group 2 metals and so I propose to use Noble Gas atoms as substitutes with charges of 2+ but I am not certain as to what atom types to use. Should I use the Noble Gas atom types that are part of the MM+ force field or should I leave the atom type as **. Regards, Paddy Paddy Kane E.mail: 94970459:~at~:vax1.dcu.ie School of Chemical Sciences Dublin City University Dublin Ireland