From Y0H8797 "-at-" ACS.TAMU.EDU Sat Dec 2 14:40:02 1995 Received: from VMS2.TAMU.EDU for Y0H8797(+ at +)ACS.TAMU.EDU by www.ccl.net (8.6.10/950822.1) id OAA16606; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 14:39:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 13:39:48 -0600 (CST) From: YONG HUANG To: CHEMISTRY(+ at +)www.ccl.net Message-Id: <951202133948.2222e8d0: at :ACS.TAMU.EDU> Subject: (1)Koopman's Theorem and (2)BondingREAD/NEW (1) Can anyone tell me whether ionization potential calculated based on Koopman's Theorem is just the IP for vertical ionization? I suspect so because I think what Koopman's Theorem misses is just the vibrational relaxation in the ionic state after the electron is gone. Please correct me if I'm wrong. (2) I use CAChe MOAPC to calculate the distances and bond orders between the 3 hydrogens of a NH3 right above the pai ring of ferulic acid (4-OH-3-OCH3- cinnamic acid). After geometry optimization, NH3 shifts to the edge of the pai-ring. I did this calculation in 3 ways: 1) no bonding is specified between H's of NH3 and pai-ring; 2) 1 H of NH3 hydrogen-bonded to carbons #1,3,5 (if the 6 C's are numbered 1 to 6); 3) 3 H's of NH3 hydrogen-bonded to C's #1,3,5, respectively. My question is: Does the calculation take into account whether I specified the bonding at all? It seems it doesn't. The results always show small bond order between H's of NH3 and substituents of the ring AND EVEN SMALLER bond order between those H's of NH3 and C's of the ring, regardless of whether I draw hydrogen bond lines in the CAChe Editor (Graphic Interface for MOPAC). Seems MOPAC Input doesn't have bond information. I guess specifying bonds in Editor doesn't do anything at all. Can someone clarify this for me? Thank you very much. I'll summarize. Yong y0h8797 /at\acs.tamu.edu