From elewars {*at*} alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca Mon Jun 22 19:16:19 1998 Received: from alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca [142.150.224.224]) by www.ccl.net (8.8.3/8.8.6/OSC/CCL 1.0) with ESMTP id TAA03867 Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from elewars /at\localhost) by alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA07964 for chemistry /at\www.ccl.net; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:16:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "E. Lewars" Message-Id: <199806222316.TAA07964 \\at// alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> To: chemistry {*at*} www.ccl.net Subject: 3-21G vs. 6-31G(d) geom opt Mon, 1998 June 22 Hello, The 3-21G (strictly, 3-21G*) basis set gives geometries which are actually a bit better than those from the 6-31G* set (Hehre, "Practical Strategies for Electronic Structure Calculations", p 23; Hehre, Radom, Schleyer and Pople, "Ab Initio Molecular Orbital Theory", pp 175 and 185; this is for HF-level calculations; for correlated-level work one needs at least 6-31G*, of course). HF/3-21G* geometries are even used for Petersson's high-accuracy CBS-4 method. So why (judging by the literature) is the 6-31G* basis usually preferred for HF-level geometries? Is it because of an unexamined belief that bigger is better? Or is it because *relative energies* are better at the HF/6-31G* level than at the HF/3-21G level? If this is the reason, then in those cases where *both* HF and MP2 (or other correlated) calculations are reported, would it not be better to do the HF calculations using 3-21G optimizations (then use MP2/ 6-31G* or bigger for the post-HF jobs)? E. Lewars =================