From chemistry-request- at -server.ccl.net Wed Sep 12 05:10:12 2001 Received: from fecit-gate.fecit.co.uk (firewall-user- at -[193.119.134.250]) by server.ccl.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8C9AB327677 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:10:11 -0400 Received: by fecit-gate.fecit.co.uk; id KAA04052; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:21:46 +0100 Received: from suisei(192.168.101.50) by fecit-gate.fecit.co.uk via smap (V5.0) id xma004048; Wed, 12 Sep 01 10:21:11 +0100 Received: from fecit.co.uk (NT11.fecit.co.uk [192.168.101.116]) by suisei.fecit.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA03752; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:50:01 +0100 Message-ID: <3B9F264F.A6CC627F #at# fecit.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:09:35 +0100 From: Herbert Fruchtl Organization: Fujitsu European Centre for Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antonio Morreale CC: chemistry /at\ccl.net Subject: Re: CCL:Two close energy states References: <3B9E3844.2020102 $#at#$ uah.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It usually doesn't mean that there are two minima, but that your optimization algorithm, in its choice of step size and direction, has run into an endless loop. If the difference is too big to just call it converged, you should discard your approximate Hessian and restart from one of these points. If you can afford it, calculate a complete Hessian first (possibly on a lower level of theory). It might help to change the optimization algorithm, most programs offer more than one. Antonio Morreale wrote: > When doing some optimization, the energy values flutuates between two > close values alternatively. As far as I know, it seems like there are > two close energy states and the optimization algorithm is not able to > choose for one. Is there any way to solve this problem? >