From chemistry-request%!at!%server.ccl.net Fri Jan 11 13:24:38 2002 Received: from MAIL.AD.Berry.edu ([66.20.28.66]) by server.ccl.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0BIObI24988 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:24:38 -0500 Received: from [10.16.232.24] ([10.16.232.24]) by MAIL.AD.Berry.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:25:57 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:24:31 -0500 Subject: Vibrational Frequencies From: Gary Breton To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2002 18:25:57.0191 (UTC) FILETIME=[697DCD70:01C19ACD] Hello everyone, I performed a minimization on a structure using Gaussian 98W (B3LYP/6-311+G**) and followed it up with a frequency calculation at the same level (of course). I obtained a single negative frequency at -27 cm-1. I then re-optimized the geometry at the same level but this time ignored symmetry. The new E was lower than the previous by 0.03 kcal/mol. The new frequency calculation afforded a single negative frequency at -11 cm-1. David Young's "Computational Chemistry" book suggests (page 94) that frequency values with a range of about -20 to 20 cm-1 are essentially zero within the numerical accuracy of most software packages. Is this true for G98 as well? To sum it all up: Can I take a -11 cm-1 frequency to be inconsequential? or do I need to continue to play with the system until absolutely no negative frequencies are present? Gary W. Breton Chair and Associate Professor Department of Chemistry Berry College PO Box 495016 Mount Berry, GA 30149 "There's a light at the end of the tunnel, but it may be an oncoming train"