From chemistry-request _-at-_)ccl.net Fri Jun 24 11:51:18 2005 Received: from web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.134]) by server.ccl.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id j5OFpBlC023334 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 11:51:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 3452 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2005 15:51:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PYa5lyayjLwVZcFKPUsbtKvVauRqQ7zDjAP0+cVflI0UOYC3LMZUL699/dLck1UUX1dYhkUelBic6Uj/uzLoQeayoaILxkFjtRAM+sXmNdgaCNm4BFr88QafTqK3gJMYYpAjuUNoKOllka52yI1CPtBl1LG2bS2gvSiddR8AJ4w= ; Message-ID: <20050624155110.3450.qmail*&*web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.106.23.135] by web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:10 PDT Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Xianlong Wang Subject: Re: CCL:accuracy of relative energies with DFT To: chemistry*&*ccl.net In-Reply-To: <8869461531dc7a91b36ed2fd54ae68bb*&*few.vu.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.0.3 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on server.ccl.net --- Marcel Swart wrote: > Hi Silviu, > > as you can see in my Mol.Phys. 102 (2004) p. 2467 > paper, PBE gives an > accuracy of 11.8 kcal/mol for the atomization > energies of the G2/97 set, > when used with a TZP basis set; > note also that there are other GGA functionals that > perform much better. > > For the atomization energies, you test the absolute > value of the energy, > while for the energies of the different isomers, you > compare the > relative > energy; I would expect the error in the atomization > energy to be much > larger > than that in the relative energy of isomers; the > latter is probably > smaller > than the 1.0 kcal/mol you mentioned. Hi Dr. Swart, is this error just your guess or you have some evidence, either theoretical or experimental? Thanks. Vincent > NB. > Please let me know if you have trouble locating the > paper, > and I will send you an off-print. > > On Jun 22, 2005, at 11:30 PM, Silviu Zilberman > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have been studying transition metal complexes > with DFT (PBE > > xc-functional). I think that a typical accuracy of > PBE is around 10 > > kcal/mol. > > > > I was wondering, when comparing very similar > isomers, should I expect > > higher accuracy in the relative total energies. I > have seen papers > > reporting differences of ~1 kcal/mol, but is it > reliable? > > > > Thanks, SIlviu. > > > dr. Marcel Swart > > Theoretische Chemie > Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam > Faculteit der Exacte Wetenschappen > > De Boelelaan 1083 > 1081 HV Amsterdam > The Netherlands > > Tel +31-(0)20-5987619 > Fax +31-(0)20-5987629 > E-mail m.swart*&*few.vu.nl > Web http://www.few.vu.nl/~swart > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com