From markm@portal.vpharm.com Thu Aug 27 22:46:04 1992 From: markm@portal.vpharm.com (Mark Murcko) Subject: Question about ESP Charges To: chemistry@ccl.net Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:33:34 EDT Status: R I have been running G92 calculations lately on fairly large drug molecules (15-20 non-hydrogen atoms) and then calculating ESP- derived charges using both CHELPG (Thanks, Curt!) and Merz-Singh- Kollman (Thanks, Kennie!). While I've observed that these methods give similar charges for most atoms, there are always a few atoms where the difference is quite large -- up to 0.3e. Also, there is a systematic difference in the charges on the hydrogens, with CHELPG giving lower hydrogen charges than MZ. I've been wondering whether anyone can explain why there are such differences in the charges, and more importantly, whether these differences are likely to cause significant differences in the results of the various types of simulations in which people often use these charges (for example, conformational analysis of flexible molecules in solution). Has anyone done anything like a systematic study of which ESP charge model seems to give the "best results" for any kinds of simulations ??? / Mark Mark Murcko Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc. Cambridge, MA