CCL:orbitals and reality
- From: Alan Shusterman <alan.shusterman[at]reed.edu>
- Subject: CCL:orbitals and reality
- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:22:17 -0800
My 2 cents (devalued by years of inflation)...
I read both Nature papers, the original research and the news
perspective. I confess that I couldn't understand the experimental
technique as described in either paper. Therefore, I cannot describe
the
experimental technique in terms of quantum theory.
So I wrote the authors of both papers for more information. Both of
them
were kind enough to respond to my note and I hope that we will continue
to exchange emails because I have more to learn. I have put their
comments below and added my own thoughts about orbitals at the end.
#1. Response from David Villeneuve:
"I don't want to leave you unhappy. We were being somewhat provocative to
show an orbital wave function, knowing that introductory quantum mechanics
courses say that you cannot do this. However it is known that one can
measure a quantum state if the system can be repeatedly prepared in the same
state (see A Royer, Foundations of Physics 19, 3 (1989)). We use an
interference technique of the same electron with itself to record the phase
of the wave function.
The other issue is whether a set of single-electron wave functions can
represent the N body quantum system. The answer is no, but quantum chemists
do it anyway. It is the best that we can do. There is lots of work in
molecular structure that depends on these approximations, such as GAUSSIAN
ab initio calculations. SO even if orbitals do not exist, they are
extensively used.
I learned after we published this, that the HOMO of N2 is not that well
known. See Maksic and Vianello, J Phys Chem 106, 6515 (2002), and Stowasser
and Hoffman, J Am Chem Soc 121, 3414 (1999) for conflicting calculations.
Finally, if you are still unhappy, you can just think that we measured a set
of transition dipole matrix elements from some state to a set of continuum
plane waves."
#2. Response from Henrik Stapelfeldt:
"It is well established that a wave function or an orbital is not directly
observable for a single quantum system. However, a set of measurements of
observables (which are real measurable quantities) on a sufficiently large
number of identically prepared systems may contain enough information to
determine the wave function (or more generally the density matrix) of the
system considered up to an overall phase.
This approach has been taken in a large number of works over the past
decade
experimentally as well as theoretically. For instance, using quantum
tomography
the density matrix, or equivalently the Wigner function, has been
reconstructed
for vibrational states of molecules, nonclassical states of light, trapped
ions, atomic beams and dissociating molecules. I will be happy to send you
references if you are not familiar with these works.
In the recent work of Itatani et al. in Nature the molecular orbital is
reconstructed from a large number of measurements of laser induced high
harmonic spectra (the observables) using a mathematical tomography routine
essentially identical to the one used in medicine CT. This is what I
tried to
explain in my News & Views article in Nature."
#3. My current thoughts on these emails and orbitals:
One of the authors admitted that the "measuring an orbital"
claim was
deliberately provocative. He also said that one could view the
experiment as only providing information about matrix elements.
Unfortunately, I don't understand the latter, so I can't say whether he
is withdrawing his claim of "measuring an orbital". Perhaps
he still
means this? Perhaps not.
Both of the authors pointed to other publications that describe
experimental techniques for observing wave functions. I have not read
these publications yet and I don't know what they will tell me. I
suspect (but this is only a suspicion) that the maximal claim will be
one can get information about the *full* molecular wave function. The
minimal claim may turn out to be quite a bit less.
Supposing that one can get information about *full* wave functions, is
it correct to claim that one can "measure orbitals"? (I
believe that
this is Sengen Sun's question.)
This poses interesting questions about what we mean by measurement and
reality. I don't want to get entangled with these deep issues. I will
be
simple-minded and assume experimental measurements are real.
Some of the emails that I have read so far in this discussion make the
following argument: if an experiment generates data Y that looks like a
familiar entity X, then it is reasonable to say that Y tells us
something useful about X. Other emails have gone farther: since Y comes
from an experiment ("Y is real" !), it is
inappropriate to object to "Y
tells us about X" on merely theoretical grounds.
There is something to both of these arguments, but it is important to
recognize their limitations. "Y tells us about X" is an
interpretation
of experimental data. It is a mental decision that comes after the
experiment and not an intrinsic property of these data. If we decide to
challenge this interpretation (and this can be done on a variety of
grounds, including theoretical notions about X), we are not
jeopardizing
the status of Y as experimental data. We are only contesting the
interpretation of Y.
Also, we have to remember that the interpretation "Y tells us
about X",
even though it looks reasonable, may be incorrect. Y may be correlated
with our ideas about X, but there may be good reasons for thinking that
X cannot cause Y.
Let's take a familiar example. Koopmans theorem equates experimental
ionization energies with orbital energies (when the orbitals are
defined
in a certain way). Many experiments have shown that there is rough,
sometimes excellent, agreement between measured energies (Y) and
orbital
energies (X). At this point, we might be tempted to say "Y tells
us
about X". Are we correct in doing this?
I think there is general agreement that Y (experimental ionization
energies) do *not* tell us about X (orbital energies) even though this
is an attractive (and frequently used) interpretation. First, we can
object to this interpretation on purely theoretical grounds: 1)
according to quantum theory, orbitals are not real, so when a molecule
is ionized, we are not "really" changing the occupancy of one
orbital
and leaving the other orbitals unchanged, and 2) quantum theory
provides
an alternative description of ionization in terms of molecular states.
The latter description is a) quantitatively more successful than the
"orbital energy" interpretation, and b) is internally
consistent with
the rest of quantum theory.
If one stubbornly insisted that ionization energies tell us about
orbital energies, I would have to ask, "since the task of theory
is to
explain experiment, do you plan to revise quantum theory so that it
predicts orbital energies in accord with experiment?" It is
interesting
that this hasn't happened. Chemists are largely satisfied with the
current quantum theory (it isn't broken) even when they find the
siren-call of orbitals irresistable. This is an example of the
compartmentalized thinking that we all engage in; different parts of my
mind happily and simultaneously cling to contradictory points of view.
Coming back to the newest experiment in Nature (which I still don't
understand): I don't think it can actually be measuring something about
orbitals because quantum theory says 1) orbitals are not real, and 2)
the theory always provides a superior orbital-free way to describe the
experiment. I wish I could supply the latter, but I can't (yet).
If you feel that my inability to provide an orbital-free explanation
proves that the "experiment tells us about orbitals", then I
would say
you have two challenges ahead of you. 1) Since current quantum theory
says orbitals are not real, come up with a new quantum theory in which
orbitals are real and have measurable properties. 2) Since your new
theory will say that orbitals are real, accept the theoretical
challenge
of bringing your theory into line with experiment, i.e., modify it so
that it correctly reproduces experimentally measured orbital
properties.
If you are still caught in the middle -- not ready to give up the
current theory, but you find the apparent similarity/correlation of
experimental data and orbital shapes appealing, inspiring, provocative,
and qualitatively useful -- I can sympathize.
Alan
--
Alan Shusterman
Chemistry Department
Reed College
Portland, OR 97202-8199
503-517-7699
http://academic.reed.edu/chemistry/alan/
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