Re: CCL:absorbance spectra or colored compound prediction
- From: Andreas Serr <serr :a:
theorie.physik.uni-muenchen.de>
- Subject: Re: CCL:absorbance spectra or colored compound
prediction
- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:41:48 +0200 (CEST)
Dear all,
S. I. Gorelsky and A. B. P. Lever used ZINDO and TD-DFT a lot for calculating
absorption spectra of (charged) transition metal complexes. There are numerous
papers where they used both techniques, but this one might be a good start:
J Organomet Chem, 635 (2001) 187-196.
The conclusions are that both methods yield similar results, most interestingly,
that this also applies to the calculated MOs (Kohn-Sham-orbitals vs.
semiempirical ZINDO/s-MOs). I do not know too much about DFT/TD-DFT, but to my
knowledge prior to that publication, DFT-theory only gives something physically
meaningful and interpretable for the overall-electron density (and all
quantities derivable from that), but not for "single
electron"-wavefunctions
(=MOs). However, I might be wrong.
Best wishes,
Andreas
Geoff Hutchison wrote:
>
> On Jun 13, 2005, at 2:07 AM, Rey Puiggros Oscar wrote:
>
>> depending on the size of your system my choice would be Time
>> Dependent Density Functional Methods or ZINDO/S. The first one is
>> quite accurate but it is more expensive, while ZINDO/S is semi-
>> empirical and faster but with lower accuracy.
>
>
> I'm not sure I'd completely agree with that. For neutral organic
> molecules, I think ZINDO/S does almost as well as TDDFT. Both do well
> with low-lying excited states.
>
> e.g.
> Hutchison, G. R.; et. al. J. Phys. Chem. A 2002, 106, 10596.
> Fabian, J. Theor. Chem. Acc. 2001, 106, 199.
>
> I'm sure there are similar "benchmark" studies too. (Although if
anyone
> has similar comparative experiment vs. computed papers for charged
> organic species, I'd be grateful for references.)
>
> -Geoff
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