From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jun 28 14:14:00 2007 From: "Shobe, David David.Shobe^sud-chemie.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: opt of aluminum complexes Message-Id: <-34599-070628140730-760-8UBvoV/Hs7aRqAksO07kdA===server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: "Shobe, David" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:07:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: "Shobe, David" [David.Shobe(a)sud-chemie.com] Aleksandra, Unless you're using a molecular mechanics method, the coordination numbers shouldn't matter. Perhaps the structure is tricky to draw, but it should be possible with a decent front-end. In particular there should be an option to increase the valence of the selected atom; e.g. this would change oxygen from divalent to trivalent. If that doesn't work, I suppose you can put in nitrogen for the oxygen and a transition metal for the aluminium. But you'd have to remember to change them manually later to the correct atoms. Your structure probably has a number of unusual (for the organic chemist) rings. Again, your Gaussian front-end program should have a means for adding a new bond between 2 selected elements. For a 4-membered ring, create the chain A-B-C-D, paying attention to things like dihedral angles, and then add a bond between A and D. You can use the "clean structure" option after that, but be prepared to go back to the "uncleaned" structure if you don't like the results! --David Shobe -----Original Message----- > From: owner-chemistry~!~ccl.net [mailto:owner-chemistry~!~ccl.net] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:26 PM To: Shobe, David Subject: CCL:G: opt of aluminum complexes Sent to CCL by: "Aleksandra N Rudnitskaya" [Aleksandra.rudnit001=umb.edu] Dear CCL members, I have a problem with optimization of molecule that contains aluminum, oxygen, hydrogen, and silicon. The main problem is that I have a lot of doubly bridging oxygen sites. Those bridging bonds are different form regular bonds and aluminum, for example, has coordination number 6 instead of expected 3, or oxygen has coordination number 3 instead of usual 2. As fare as I can see, there are two problems, the first, how to draw the structure with bridging bonds correctly and, the second, using what basis set may I optimize this structure in Gaussian? Thank you very much in advance. Aleksandrahttp://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txtThis e-mail message may contain confidential and / or privileged information. If you are not an addressee or otherwise authorized to receive this message, you should not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this e-mail or any information contained in the message. If you have received this material in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.