From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Sat Oct 27 02:16:00 2007 From: "Simon Halstead joyjoyhappyjoy__yahoo.co.uk" To: CCL Subject: CCL: MD of systems with a net charge using Ewald Message-Id: <-35499-071026230900-23995-DnuH/nru16e1eQu9YEKBUw-.-server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Simon Halstead Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:08:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Simon Halstead [joyjoyhappyjoy#%#yahoo.co.uk] By the energy I mean the energy of the isolated ion. My system has a single ion solvated in N SPC/E water. I obtain the energy of the isolate ion from the potential energy of the system minus the potential energy of N water (calculated separately). It is this energy of a single isolated ion that shows strong system size dependence. --- "Konrad Hinsen hinsen+/-cnrs-orleans.fr" wrote: > > Sent to CCL by: "Konrad Hinsen" > [hinsen#cnrs-orleans.fr] > On Oct 26, 2007, at 5:28, Simon Halstead > joyjoyhappyjoy * yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > > I am running MD simulations on systems with either > a net +1 or -1 charge using Ewald summation > > and dl_poly. The Ewald summation should correct > for the net charge by adding a smeared charge > > over the cell. However, my results show a serious > system size dependence for the potential energy > > (from the coulomb term). > > Does anyone know of any way to correct the energy > results? > > Ewald summation does indeed add a neutralizing > background charge density, which makes the > electrostatic energy finite. However, the energy > depends on the system size. If you think that in > your > specific case the energy should not depend on system > size, then please tell us why. > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Konrad Hinsen > Centre de Biophysique Molculaire, CNRS Orlans > Synchrotron Soleil - Division Expriences > Saint Aubin - BP 48 > 91192 Gif sur Yvette Cedex, France > Tel. +33-1 69 35 97 15 > E-Mail: hinsen-.-cnrs-orleans.fr > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -= This is automatically added to each message by > the mailing script =- > To recover the email address of the author of the > message, please change > the strange characters on the top line to the ]~[ > sign. You can also > look up the X-Original-From: line in the mail > header.> > E-mail to administrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST]~[ccl.net > or use> > Before posting, check wait time at: > http://www.ccl.net> Conferences: > http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ > > Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/htdig (login: > ccl, Password: search) > > If your mail bounces from CCL with 5.7.1 error, > check:> > RTFI: > http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/aboutccl/instructions/> > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com