From owner-chemistry@ccl.net Thu Jul 31 07:48:00 2008 From: "Mariusz Radon mariusz.radon-,-gmail.com" To: CCL Subject: CCL:G: Locating a broken-symmetry singlet state in Gaussian Message-Id: <-37464-080731062202-30547-xkixCz7+9YOc6dDPF7goJA**server.ccl.net> X-Original-From: Mariusz Radon Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:16:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sent to CCL by: Mariusz Radon [mariusz.radon~~gmail.com] Sue L chsue2004:yahoo.com wrote: > Is it necessary to put a keyword guess=mix, in order to locate a > broken-symmetry singlet state in Gaussian? If the molecule contains a > symmetry, in which the singly occupied alpha and beta orbitals are in > different symmetry, there is no need to put that keyword? > Hi Sue, Is it enough or not, I think, it depends on particular case... You always need to check whether you really have converged to a broken-symmetry solution or not; AFAIK, even "guess=mix" keyword doesn't guarantee this. So, you need to inspect the molecular orbitals and/or value after the calculations are finished. In such a case, that alpha and beta singly occupied orbitals belong to different symmetries, a nice way to produce the broken symmetry solution might be to manually permute the relevant orbitals (e.g. "guess=alter") and (probably) to use "scf=symm". best wishes, Mariusz Radon