CCL: NPT TIP5P, 1atm MD





--- On Sat, 2/6/10, Amir Taghavi <amir_taghavi14 a yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Amir Taghavi <amir_taghavi14 a yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: CCL: NPT TIP5P, 1atm MD
To: "CCL Subscribers" <chemistry a ccl.net>
Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 4:13 PM

Hi Dear Manish,

In order to work in an NPT ensemble, you have to consider this that at higher times the system will converge to your desired pressure,

As usual, working in NPT ensemble has its own difficulties, you have to monitor the pressure fluctuations, and then if you average of pressure values, you will see that your pressure average smoothly will converge to your desired value at higher durations of time, while saving its fluctuations.

I observed your tau-values and thermostats and barostats, you have chosen good ones, the experience has shown that the better converges in 0.5 ps of tau-pressure,

But I recommend you strongly use the higher number of water molecules (i.e. at least 500 molecules).

In fact to work in such a system, you have to monitor the total energy and pressure values to ensure that reaching to equilibrium, then taking average of water density for those durations, finally you find that your density has been nearly reached up to the desired value,

Of course you should not have expected to reach to the real density in experimental, as all of these water molecules are models, not the real ones.

Hope this is helpful.

Regards,

Amir Taghavi Nasrabadi,

Tehran Univ.



--- On Sat, 2/6/10, Manish Agarwal zmanish**gmail.com <owner-chemistry a ccl.net> wrote:

From: Manish Agarwal zmanish**gmail.com <owner-chemistry a ccl.net>
Subject: CCL: NPT TIP5P, 1atm MD
To: "Taghavi, Amir " <amir_taghavi14 a yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 6:27 AM


Sent to CCL by: Manish Agarwal [zmanish^^gmail.com]
Dear CCLers,

I am having trouble reproducing the density at 1 atm, 300K for TIP5P
water, or for that matter any water model in the NPT ensemble using
Molecular Dynamics:

have tried
Berendsen Thermostat and Barostat
Nose-Hoover Thermostat and Barostat

am using Ewald summation for electrostatics,
256 water molecules. 2000000  steps, with or without velocity scaling
in the beginning 1fs time step
DLPOLY ver 2.19

The problem is as follows : either the pressure does not stabilize at
1atm (too low or too high) or the temperature does not maintain at
300K
When both are maintained, for example Berendsen Thermostat relaxation
time 0.1ps, Barostat relaxation time 0.5ps, the density does not reach
0.99g/cc; also, the energy profile with time looks too perturbed (does
NOT look like a nice fluctuation about the mean).

In the NVT ensemble, however, I have been able to reproduce other
static(orientational order) and dynamic properties(diffusivities) - so
the model seems fine.

Any thoughts, suggestions are appreciated.

Regards,
Manish Agarwal
<zmanish||gmail.com>



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