CCL: Queries on TDDFT calculations on emission
- From: Jamin Krinsky <krinsky.jamin^-^gmail.com>
- Subject: CCL: Queries on TDDFT calculations on emission
- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:50:01 -0800
Sent to CCL by: Jamin Krinsky [krinsky.jamin]=[gmail.com]
Dear Eliz,
It depends on which type of emission you want to model. Absorption
will normally be only from the ground singlet state to various excited
singlet states. Fluorescence occurs from the lowest singlet excited
state to the ground state, but at the geometry of the first singlet
excited state. So you would need to do a TDDFT optimization at the
first singlet excited state, and the emission wavelength would be the
excitation energy at the end of your optimization.
If inter-system crossing can occur, the first singlet excited state
can relax to the first triplet excited state. Because emission from
this state to the ground state is spin forbidden the excited state
will be longer-lived, and the emission process is phosphorescence. The
cheapest (and pretty reasonable) way to calculate that emission is to
do a geometry optimization on the "ground state" triplet using
unrestricted, normal DFT, then do a TDDFT calculation from the singlet
at that geometry and specify triplet excited states. Note that this
last calculation will not give you oscillator strengths, just
wavelengths.
This basic discussion can be found in any good comp. chem. text, but
if you are just starting out you should read up on when you can
believe your results, for example:
J. Chem. Phys. 2002, 117, 5543
J. Am. Chem. Soc. 2004, 126, 4007
J. Chem. Phys. 2008, 128, 044118
Other people might have some better references for these things, this
is just what I happen to have in front of me.
Good luck,
Jamin
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Eliz Lam elizabeth.shlam:_:gmail.com
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> Sent to CCL by: "Eliz Lam" [elizabeth.shlam*|*gmail.com]
> Dear CCLers,
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> Hi, I'm a beginner in learning DFT and TDDFT calculations and have some
queries on calculating emission properties of a molecule. I originally
thought the emission of a molecule should be the first triplet excited state
from TDDFT calculations as stated from Kasha's rule that the emissive state
should be of the lowest energy. However, it seems not always the case.
I'm wondering why one could not predict emission from the above way and
how should one predict the emission of a molecule? And is the emission
mechanism originated the same as from first triplet excited state in the TDDFT
calculations?
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> Thank you so much!
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