CCL:G: DFT and dispersion
- From: Arne Dieckmann <adieckma###googlemail.com>
- Subject: CCL:G: DFT and dispersion
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:15:14 -0700
Sent to CCL by: Arne Dieckmann [adieckma(-)googlemail.com]
Dear Lars,
thanks for your immediate reply. I know about the differences between the
Minnesota functionals and the DFT-D3 method. This is why I wanted to augment
their mid-range dispersion with the long range dispersion your former group
developed. Do you know if TPSS with D-corrections produces significantly
different geometries than M06-2X without D-corrections? How much do geometries
of molecules (>= 50 atoms) change in general? I am just wondering if it will
be sufficient to optimize with M06-2X and apply the single point D-corrections.
By the way, do you know how well DFT-D3 works with implicit solvation? I guess
in this case the parameters would have to be solvent-dependent, right?
Thanks again,
Arne
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Dr. Arne Dieckmann
Houk Research Lab
University of California, Los Angeles
email: adieckma()googlemail.com
On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Dr. Lars Goerigk lars.goerigk{}chem.usyd.edu.au
wrote:
>
> Sent to CCL by: "Dr. Lars Goerigk"
[lars.goerigk(~)chem.usyd.edu.au]
> Dear Arne,
>
> M06-2X was fitted to noncovalently bound systems in their equilibrium
geometries and due to that fit it somehow incorporates medium-range dispersion
interactions. However, as also discussed in the literature, it is expected that
the asymptotic long-range behavior is still not correct and that it can also
benefit from dispersion corrections.
> On the issue DFT-D3 in combination with the Minnesota functionals you can
refer to PCCP 2011, 13, 6670. There, the parameters for DFT-D3 for those
functionals were published and discussed.
>
> DFT-D2 parameters for the Minnesota functionals were published by the
Martin group in JPCA 2008, 112, 12868. The s6 had to be smaller than unity,
though, which still does not give the correct asymptotics, opposed to DFT-D3,
where it was fixed to unity.
>
> If you have the Gaussian code available you could try to implement DFT-D3
(based on the code Stefan Grimme made available on his website).
> If you do not have the code, you would have to use DFT-D2. Please note that
in G09 Rev A, DFT-D2 only works with B97-D and omega-B97X-D.
> That bug was fixed however and in Rev. B01 and higher you can now also use
DFT-D2 for those functionals, which are mentioned in Grimme's DFT-D2 paper from
2006 (i.e. also for B3LYP, TPSS, PBE, BP86).
> You have to use the IOp(3/124=3) then. In combination with IOp33(3=3) you
also get a printout to check, if the correct s6 value was applied.
> Other functionals are not supported and I do not know if it is possible to
read in an s6 specified by the user (maybe you should contact the Gaussian
support to find that out). IOp(3/124=1) adds the dispersion correction to any
functional, but only with an s6=1, which is too large for the Minnesota
functionals.
>
> If you can't use M06-2X, you could try TPSS in combination with
D-corrections. Based on publications and my own experience, this gives very good
structures.
>
> Another possibility would be to get ORCA, which is for free. I am not 100%
sure if DFT-D3 is already implemented; have a look at the ORCA website for that.
> You could also check if other programs have already implemented DFT-D3.
>
> I hope these information could help you.
>
> With best wishes,
> Lars
>
> --
> Dr. Lars Goerigk
> School of Chemistry
> The University of Sydney
> Sydney, New South Wales 2006
> Australiahttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml>
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