CCL:G: energy for proton



For proton, ZPE is obviously zero, since there is no vibration! There is also no electron and no rotation involved in the possible motion of the proton. Thus, the energy of proton is translational, and E=1.5*RT=0.001416 Hartree, DH=2.5*RT=0.002360 Hartree=6.197 kJ/mol, DG=DH-TDS=-0.01 Hartree. To convert energy into enthalpy, we add PV, which is RT for an ideal gas. The entropy can be calculated using the Sackur Tetrode equation. Note that it is also translational.

You can also find this gaussian output helpful:

 -------------------
 - Thermochemistry -of the proton
 -------------------
 Temperature   298.150 Kelvin.  Pressure   1.00000 Atm.
 Atom  1 has atomic number  1 and mass   1.00783
 Molecular mass:     1.00783 amu.
 Zero-point vibrational energy          0.0 (Joules/Mol)
                                    0.00000 (Kcal/Mol)
 Vibrational temperatures: 
          (Kelvin)
 
 Zero-point correction=                           0.000000 (Hartree/Particle)
 Thermal correction to Energy=                    0.001416
 Thermal correction to Enthalpy=                  0.002360
 Thermal correction to Gibbs Free Energy=        -0.010000
 Sum of electronic and zero-point Energies=              0.000000
 Sum of electronic and thermal Energies=                 0.001416
 Sum of electronic and thermal Enthalpies=               0.002360
 Sum of electronic and thermal Free Energies=           -0.010000
 
                     E (Thermal)             CV                S
                      KCal/Mol        Cal/Mol-Kelvin    Cal/Mol-Kelvin
 Total                    0.889              2.981             26.014
 Electronic               0.000              0.000              0.000
 Translational            0.889              2.981             26.014
 Rotational               0.000              0.000              0.000
 Vibrational              0.000              0.000              0.000
                       Q            Log10(Q)             Ln(Q)
 Total Bot       0.397679D+05          4.599533         10.590816
 Total V=0       0.397679D+05          4.599533         10.590816
 Vib (Bot)       0.100000D+01          0.000000          0.000000
 Vib (V=0)       0.100000D+01          0.000000          0.000000
 Electronic      0.100000D+01          0.000000          0.000000
 Translational   0.397679D+05          4.599533         10.590816
 Rotational      0.100000D+01          0.000000          0.00000
Hope this would help.
Best regards,

On 12 April 2012 08:17, Tymofii Nikolaienko tim_mail*_*ukr.net <owner-chemistry : ccl.net> wrote:

Sent to CCL by: Tymofii Nikolaienko [tim_mail{=}ukr.net]
Yes, ZPE is zero.
However, if considering temperatures higher than 0 K, we can NOT neglect the kinetic energy of the proton,
since its thermal avarage is 3 * kT / 2 !

It is easy to demonstrate if you run the following for example with H atom:

# opt freq b3lyp/aug-cc-pVQZ int=ultrafine

H atom

0 2
H 0.0 0.0 0.0

And than you read in the output file:
...
 - Thermochemistry -
 -------------------
 Temperature   298.150 Kelvin.  Pressure   1.00000 Atm.
...
 Zero-point correction=                           0.000000 (Hartree/Particle)
 Thermal correction to Energy=                    0.001416
 Thermal correction to Enthalpy=                  0.002360
 Thermal correction to Gibbs Free Energy=        -0.010654

These thermal corrections would be just that same for the proton since when calculating thermochemistry Gaussian assumes ground electron state only
(so no electronic degrees of freedom contribute to thermal corrections; see http://www.gaussian.com/g_whitepap/thermo.htm ).
Note that "0.001416" (the "Thermal correction to Energy") equals 3/2*k*T for T = 298.15 K, while "0.002360" (" Thermal correction to Enthalpy") equals
3/2*k*T + k*T since the enthalpy is H = U + P*v while P*v = k*T for ideal gas - the model for calculating thermochemistry Gaussian assumes
(where v is the gas volume per particle). To obtain Gibbs free energy use the -T*s term where s is the entropy of ideal gas per particle at given temperature.

Yours sincerely
Tymofii Nikolaienko


12.04.2012 8:30, Alexander Bagaturyants bagaturyants-.-gmail.com wrote:
Sent to CCL by: "Alexander Bagaturyants" [bagaturyants_-_gmail.com]
Dear Arturo,
Proton has no internal degrees of freedom;
therefore, its energy is zero, if we neglect its kinetic energy.
Naturally, the kinetic energy (of a free proton) can take on any value,
so that we may speak about so-called dissociation threshold.
A piece of advice: when you consider chemistry,
you should not sometimes forget about physics.
Best regards
Alexander

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Sent: 11 April, 2012 21:12
To: Alexander Bagaturyants
Subject: CCL: energy for proton


Sent to CCL by: Arturo Espinosa [artuesp(_)um.es] Dear CCL users:

I am trying to compute ZPE-corrected dissociation energies for some
particular bonds, in order to correlate these values with other
properties computed at the same level (starting from, let's say, B3LYP-
D/def2-TZVP). My problem (perhaps a bit stupid) comes when dealing with
heterolytic dissociations of a A-H bond to give A- (anion) and H+ (a
proton). Moreover I am intending to compare this dissociation with the
other possible heterolytic dissociation and even with the homolytic
one. Calculation of the A-H and A- species is straighforward (no matter
what level of calculation), but the problem is what value (in atomic
units) should I assign to the H+ species. No QC calculation is possible
as there are no electrons. I recognize that I am a bit lost.
Suggestions are wellcome.
Thank you in advance and best regards,
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