Dear Ibrahim, Most MCSCF software (MOLCAS, MOLPRO, GAMESS) calculates what you ask, between different space and/or spin states. For example in GAMESS-US these crossing searches are named minimum energy crossing (MEX). Note that, you wouldn't term it an avoided crossing from the beginning. Crossings between different states can be true intersections. Designation of conical intersection or avoided crossing requires a detailed analysis of the relative energies and electronic properties of the states under investigation. Reading works of Dupuis, Schlegel, Robb (among many others) may help. Best, Yavuz On 20.04.2012 02:36, Walid M. I. Hassan walid_m76.:.yahoo.com wrote: Sent to CCL by: "Walid M. I. Hassan" [walid_m76|-|yahoo.com] Dear Scientists long time since I send email via this list, my question is very simple does anyone know a software to determine the avoided crossing or conical intersection between singlet and triplet states, i mean states of different multiplicity In Gaussian 09 manual, in Opt keyword ,under conical option it is written, "Search for a conical intersection or avoided crossing using the state- averaged CASSCF method. Avoided is a synonym for Conical. Note that CASSCF=SlaterDet is needed in order to locate a conical intersection between a singlet state and a triplet state." I tried this and find it is impossible since in input file you determine a singlet or triplet multiplicity but not both and SlaterDet option just reverse the spin but do not change multiplicity see this part of output to see the configurations when I use singlet state with No SLATER DETERMINANTI get the following configuration Configuration 1 Symmetry 1 111000 Configuration 2 Symmetry 1 11ab00 Configuration 3 Symmetry 1 110100 Configuration 4 Symmetry 1 1a1b00 which become as follows with SLATER DETERMINANT Configuration 1 Symmetry 1 111000 Configuration 2 Symmetry 1 11ba00 Configuration 3 Symmetry 1 11ab00 Configuration 4 Symmetry 1 1b1a00 Configuration 5 Symmetry 1 11b0a0 for triplet state in both cases i get the following configuration Configuration 1 Symmetry 1 11aa00 Configuration 2 Symmetry 1 11a0a0 Configuration 3 Symmetry 1 1a1a00 Configuration 4 Symmetry 1 110aa0as you can see SlaterDet option reverse ab to ba but not to aa I want to get conical intersection or avoided crossing between Configuration 1 Symmetry 1 111000 of singlet and Configuration 1 Symmetry 1 11aa00 of triplet state I sent this question to Gaussian team and their reply was not convincing to me, I will put it here for your reference, I think they just go around the problem to claim that there is no problem in the manual i think gaussian program can not do it if i am wrong i will appreciate if you guide me If i am write so what program can find this conical intersection for me sorry for long email but i think it won't show my point if it is shorter Dr. Ibrahim, Thank you for giving us a chance to comment. When you look at those configuration lists you are not actually looking a lists of identical things. The singlet without Slater Determinant is a list of configurations, fixed linear combinations of determinants giving singlets. So there will be no triplet terms in this expansion and the higher roots of the CASSCF equations will all be singlets as well. The second case lists determinants directly and generates singlets and m(l)=0 triplets. So configurations 2 and 3 are a pair of determinants which can contribute to both singlets and triplets with the sign difference carried on the CI expansion coefficients, not on the determinants directly. The third case correspond to a ground state triplet, m(l)=+/-1 and no singlet contributions are possible. Again any excited states will be triplets so this reference is not suitable for the crossing. So the program can compute the crossing you desire by using a singlet reference with SlaterDet included in the option list. You should still solve for the first few roots to confirm that you have the second root corresponding to the triplet you expected.E-mail to subscribers: CHEMISTRY[-]ccl.net or use: http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_message E-mail to administrators: CHEMISTRY-REQUEST[-]ccl.net or use http://www.ccl.net/cgi-bin/ccl/send_ccl_messagehttp://www.ccl.net/chemistry/sub_unsub.shtml Before posting, check wait time at: http://www.ccl.net Job: http://www.ccl.net/jobs Conferences: http://server.ccl.net/chemistry/announcements/conferences/ Search Messages: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/searchccl/index.shtmlhttp://www.ccl.net/spammers.txt RTFI: http://www.ccl.net/chemistry/aboutccl/instructions/ -- ||||||||||||||||||||||| Yavuz Dede GÜ-Fen Fakültesi Kimya Bölümü L-128 06500 Ankara Tel: 312-202-1386 Faks: 312-212-2279 |||||||||||||||||||| Yavuz Dede, Ph.D. Theoretical/Computational Chemistry Gazi University Faculty of Science Department of Chemistry 06500 Ankara TURKEY http://w3.gazi.edu.tr/~dede/ydd.htm |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |